me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
 ·VOIPo
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Re: Newbie to WISP's needs some info.
Fixed is well fixed to one spot, generally lower ping less packet loss(some can use VoIP). cellular(aka mobile)WISP is mobile, but can have higher ping more PL and mostly no VoIP(other than skype to skype). ISDN can vary from place to place. How much do you par for phone now? ISND from telcos can be $150+(for the line and internet) ISDN from my WISP(they sell ISDN too, but not the line the telcos sell the line) is $20. You would have to contact ur telco for info on the ISDN line. as for finding a FWISP, use the last link I posted and put ur area code after the =. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
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I went onto antennasearch.com and here the results that I got,
Alert! 15 Towers (6 Registered,9 Not Registered) found within 4.00 miles of Chestnut Ln, Pine Grove, PA 17963.
Info! The NEAREST Tower is .58 miles away and is owned by Spectra Site Communications.
Ok! No Applications for Future Towers detected as of 03/26/09.
Tower Type ID Num Site Owner Height Dist
Registered (1) New Cingular Wireless Pcs, Llc 309 feet 2.24 miles
(2) New Cingular Wireless Services, Inc. 221 feet 2.46 miles
(3) Cellco Partnership 210 feet 2.71 miles
(4) Commonwealth Of Pennsylvania State Police 300 feet 3.52 miles
(5) Cellco Partnership 270 feet 3.53 miles
(6) Cincap Vi, Llc 181 feet 3.79 miles
Not Registered (1) Spectra Site Communications 155 feet .58 miles
(2) Blank 75 feet 1.29 miles
(3) Schuylkill, County Of 320 feet 2.26 miles
(4) Us Cellular Corp 199 feet 2.75 miles
(5) Us Cellular Corp 199 feet 3.52 miles
(6) Us Cellular Corp 199 feet 3.69 miles
(7) United States Cellular Operating Co 190 feet 3.74 miles
(8) Blank 320 feet 3.81 miles
(9) Schuylkill County Municipal 104 feet 3.89 miles
Future (No Towers Detected) |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
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I found this on antennasearch.com also. This tower is only about a mile or two at the most away from my house. The description says the telco provider to the tower is verizon and that it is a wireless tower. Could this a WISP? If it is, I should get a good signal because it is in direct view from my house. here's the info from the brochure on antennasearch.com
Site Name: Panther Head
Site Number: 308429
Address: Woods at Chapel Hill
City: Pine Grove
State: Pennsylvania
Zip Code: 17963
Latitude: 40 - 34 - 10.9 N 40.56972
Longitude: 76 - 26 - 3.12 W -76.4342
Map to Google
Map to MapQuest
Tower Data
Tower Number: 308429
Structure Height (AGL): 130 ft.
Structure Height (AMSL): 1360 ft.
Clearance: 13 ft.
Total Height (AMSL): 1373 ft.
Type: Self Support
FAA #: 00-AEA-3188-OE
FCC #:
Site Specs
MTA: Philadelphia
BTA: Pottsville, PA
MSA/RSA: Pennsylvania 8 - Union
Ground Elevation AMSL: 1230 ft.
Datum: NAD83
County: SCHUYLKILL
Region USA
Comments:
Driving Instructions: 81 north from Harrisburg to Exit 100 Rte 443. Go east on 443 and make left onto 2 1/2 mile Road. Then take it to Out Wood Dr. and go left. Then make a right onto Chapel Road and proceed for about two miles to Summit Road on the left. Take Summit road up the mountain to a dead end and you will see a gate with a stone road going up into the mountain even more. Take it up all the way to the tower on the right.
Utility Information
Telco Provider: Verizon
Power Provider: PPL
Backup Generator: No
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | The verizon tower could be ether one(cell or internet). As for the Spectra Site Communications, you would have to go to their web site to find out. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
1 edit | reply to dashock333
Well the spectra site tower says this, "Telco Provider: Verizon". Does that tell you anything? This is the same tower as the verizon one that I mentioned. i went on the spectra site and types in my address and that tower was on the map. It's only a little over a half a mile away i think. I emailed the company to try and find out if it is a fixed WISP or mobile so I have to wait for an answer.
How do i find out if the verizon is cell or internet? |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| »www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/Cove···WREQUEST make sure the broadband and vcast circle has the dot in it enter ur address and if u r in the blue it is most likely an internet tower. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA | reply to dashock333
Well I am definateley in the blue area, but I don't see any dots other than the thumbtack thing. My address is 56 Chestnut Lane, Pine Grove PA if u would like to check. Do dots represent towers? |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Yeah, u r in the blue, and if it is a internet tower by u it should help with the ping, but a fixed may still have better ping, can u get one? If not try millenicom/acun(same MWISP diff url). dots r not towers, I meant the thing under the map. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
| Well according to the google map and the onelasvegas sites, there aren't any local fixed WISP's that I can tell. The closest are about 20-25 miles away and on the other side of some mountains.
I have looked into Millenicom, their prices seem reasonable for not having contracts or a cap, which is good. What do u mean by "same MWISP diff url"? That they provide the same service but there's two different names? Both URL's take me to the same page as far as I can tell.
If the tower is internet, what kind of pings can I expect? Millenicom has still not gotten back to me. Would they be able to tell me if that tower is part of their network and what kind of pings I could expect from it? |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO | you won't know until you get it. just order it already! understand the return policies and procedures just in case. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to dashock333
by same MWISP(mobile wireless internet service provider) diff url, I mean, same MWISP one url is just shorter than the other. And I do not know about the pings, you just have to try if it doesn't work see if u can get ISDN. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
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I appreciate ur bluntness RockyBB, but I like to know what's in soemthing before I jump in. I will most likely give Millenicom a try since it really can't be any slower than Wild Blue.
And me1212, I want to thank you for all of your help.
If I here anything from Millenicom or Spectra Sites I'll post it here. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | You could try to ask about the avg ping on the verizon wireless chat. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
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I got a response from Millenicom, here's what they said,
"We work over cell towers (EvDO) and aren't wifi at all. Although we don't have specific numbers on latency you'll find that it is very tolerable. You are in an excellent area for our service."
And for the question about gaming,
"Our service probably won't work well for online gaming. Although we do not cap our service we really aren't for high usage clients."
I think they said this just because they don't want people gaming on their network all day. They said that the latency is very tolerable, so it should be gameable since I am in "an excellent area for their service." |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | I think you should try it, if worse comes to worse you can try for ISDN, but I hope millenicom works 4 u. |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
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said by dashock333  :I appreciate ur bluntness RockyBB, but I like to know what's in soemthing before I jump in. Realize that cellular broadband networks were designed to push stuff to cell phones: downloads and email. What is the absolute last thing that anyone worries about with downloads and email? Latency. What is the absolute first thing a gamer worries about? Latency.
That said, with cellular broadband, you CAN'T know the answers to your questions without trying it. your performance will depend on the distance to your nearest tower, your orientation to it, the stuff in between your adapter and the tower, and the characteristics of the signal at that tower. knowing averages is worthless, because you just want to know how it will work for you ... you have an almost 100% certainty that your performance will deviate from the average, either better or worse. but there's no way to predict until you try it. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
2 edits | reply to dashock333
I got a response from Millenicom, "We work over cell towers (EvDO) and aren't wifi at all. Although we don't have specific numbers on latency you'll find that it is very tolerable. You are in an excellent area for our service."
Also, on the Millenicom website it says this on the "devices" page, "Millenicom clients using the Pantech UM175 are able to subscribe to a static IP for an additional $10/month."
Would this be considered a fixed WISP?
Would an antenna help? Do you have an antenna? Would you recemmend getting one? Does placing the USB modem somewhere else in the house and running a USB extension cord work too?
Got another answer to my question about whether Millenicom supports VOIP, and the answer was yes, and that many people use Vonage and Skype. So that's pretty cool. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| Static Ip does not = FWISP, IDK if an antenna would help or not.
"Does placing the USB modem somewhere else in the house and running a USB extension cord work too?" I don't get what ur saying. Does the ur game system have a usb port that can work as a highspeed port? If so plugging the USB modem into ur, a PS3 was it, may work. |
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dashock333
join:2007-11-18
Pine Grove, PA
| reply to dashock333
About the USB thing, I was just wondering if, say I get a better signal upstairs, but I want my router downstairs... can I place the modem upstairs and use a USB extension cable to connect the modem to my router which would be downstairs. Sorry for the confusion. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Not that i know of. Is it a wireless router u r talking about? If so you can just put it upstairs(right over the ps3) if u want for best signal both ways. |
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