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Bell appeals CRTC decision

Haha... I like it. Pretty much threatening to stop upgrading the network, unless they get their way.

If Bell doesn't share access... Then they'd be the only company to offer fiber on an extensive scale, and would have a monopoly. What would stop bell from selling higher speeds for cheaper then their DSL speeds? It'd make pretty much every company go out of business but them...

reply to Edgar_man_boy
hahah what a bunch of morons. Basically they're saying they don't want competition, they want to kill it.

you know this was a bitch move i expected bell to pull. i mean what the fuck? stop upgrading our network if we don't get our own way? this cheeses me i hope the CRTC refuses the appeal

reply to Edgar_man_boy
I think this is bad. This looks like either Bell's plan "B" or worst, CRTC's/Bell's plan "A"; this is, we won't get you what you want because it would be politically suicidal, however, we will overturn on appeal ... wink... wink....

"Just because you are paranoid, it does not mean there are not out to get you"

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reply to Edgar_man_boy
thanks for the joke. Needed one this morning !

BCE asked the cabinet yesterday to address its request on an urgent basis
in order to avoid putting a damper on innovation and productivity by
interfering with the very investments needed to foster economic recovery, such
as those being undertaken by Bell and other telecom companies.

reply to globus999
Damn these companies like TekSavvy, Velcom, Ebox, and Acanac that try to compete with Bell to provide internet services, let alone good services.

TekSavvy is stifling competition by using THEIR OWN HARDWARE that THEY PAID FOR. They don't deserve to have customers.

I don't think they deserve my $29.95/month anymore.

reply to Edgar_man_boy
Okay. So, if I understand this correctly, they are saying that monopolies have more creativity. Hmm...

Don't worry guys.
Rocky wont' give up

reply to Edgar_man_boy
There's two edges on this sword. If other ISPs (hint hint!) would get going on building out their own network, a decision in Bell's favour here would also protect them from Bell. Simply start wiring in places where there's money to be made that you know Bell won't wire for a while. Become the new incumbent. When Bell wants to use your network and appeals to the government, simply remind the government of the "BCE Law" and that it will "Stifle innovation by allowing other competitors access". Then hammer the government for a "Other ISP Law" making it law that whoever "fibres up" a house first wins the rights to it and nobody else can even run fibre there! You know, to foster "innovation".

>:-D

reply to grunze510
Teksavvy IS not trying to compete with Bell since Bell doesn't want third party provider to give the same speed as them and that's what the CRTC ruling was about they ask Bell to let the third party company to have the same service. And they don't use their own hardware cause if you have a problem with your internet they gonna send a BELL tech to take care of it same for Acanac and other dsl company that use Bell lines.

P.S. i edit my post after reading it again the first sentence wasn't necessary sorry about that

I understand what the CRTC request was about and that TekSavvy is currently a wholesale provider. But as it is, Bell and TekSavvy are still competitors in a way.

How much longer can Bell keep going on with fake excuses for? Next thing you know, they won't want you to check your email because that requires internet and uses the router's resources which cost money.

reply to Edgar_man_boy
The problem arises from the fact that Service Providers are also owners of the means for it. (Could you imagine a large trucking company owning all the nation's highways?)

What the Government (or the CRTC) should do is to order a split of those holdings. One company should own the infrastructure, another the service. The infrastructure should be regulated so that everybody could have access to it, but priced reasonably so that it would pay for itself (and future investments). Then let the service providers, who pay equally for equal access, compete on the quality and price of the service.

That should be for all infrastructure that enters into one's house, be it hydro lines, gas lines, cable or phone. I would love to see a number of cable service providers compete rather than splitting the pie among themselves. (I think this is already somehow done with hydro and gas)

(Wasn't this model that Ted Rogers fought so hard against Bell Canada monopoly back in the eighties? I do not know why the cable has not opened up to the competition.)

The CRTC should put the copper of canadian networks, which were paid for by tax payer dollars back in the control of the public.

Imagine how often a company like teksavvy would bring us better and faster speeds and new technologies, provided the change.

reply to Edgar_man_boy
One step forward, two steps back

On the bright side, the longer Bell delays its new tariffs, the longer we can enjoy current capacity based tariffs.

Remember, the minute CRTC approves Bell's new tariffs, it will be Bell that will be making money, not Teksavvy since Bell will be the one billing for usage.

Also remember that Bell has had its satanic boxes running for over a year now, probably collecting usage information for each and every one of us. And Bell will probably set its new tariffs so that small users would cost ISPs less while big users would end up costing a LOT more.

Many ISPs will support the new tariffs because if their users are not big users, the ISP will benefit from lower Bell costs.

You want to download a movie ? Bell will make sure it gets its cut. This is going back to the Datapac days of billing by the kilopacket. It isn't X.25 that was bad, it was the pricing policies.

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reply to Edgar_man_boy
Regardless of what bell offers. If your smart and know your options. Your going to choose Teksavvy, since we know they are always working for us on this subject. Like someone said Rocky isn't going to give up. I would rather them keep their 5 and 6 Meg profiles that are uncapped, unthrottled with MLPPP. Than accept new profiles and end up with bell's crappy caps. But from what I have read Rocky has a tricks plans up his sleeve. I can't wait to find out they are. Screw Bell, their time is starting to run out. It's only a matter of time before Teksavvy becomes the new big/little guy.