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Kfedka
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join:2005-05-06
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reply to neufuse
Re: caps....

The sweet spot is unlimited not 250gb. 250gb in 2005 would have been maybe, but not today.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

You're not going to get "unlimited".. that was a lesson learned WAY back in the 90's that unlimited didn't pay.

250 is just fine, for these days. My only issue is that the so called ceiling is a "limit".. and limits are not acceptable. When the so called "limit" is hit, they need to either throttle speeds down to a much lower level, OR charge for overage.

Caps and tiers are nothing new to the internet... just residential services is all. If you give someone or a large group of people 'unlimited' anything, there will always be some that abuse it. ANYONE with an ounce of brains knows that you can't lasso in those that do abuse something while not treating everyone else the same way... ask any class action lawyer that.

vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

said by fiberguy See Profile :

My only issue is that the so called ceiling is a "limit".. and limits are not acceptable. When the so called "limit" is hit, they need to either throttle speeds down to a much lower level, OR charge for overage.
I would have ZERO problems with them doing the former...too bad most of the providers are considering doing the latter.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

But, do you know what the charging for overage really says to me? ... it says "We know that liberal socialists are going to tear into our core business over their golden internet service and hurt us bad, so get used to us shifting our income to the internet where you want it to be"...

It's called priming the marketplace.

Everyone wants to shove everything and the kitchen sink down the internet line... and that's fine.. many people see "great savings" with the internet.. however, it's a pipe dream. The costs that you avoided in savings only come back in another form elsewhere.. what you're going to see is that most of your money will go down the pipe in the form in the internet.

You're going to see the internet, and services, become that of the airlines and their baggage fees. I guess no one saw bag fees coming a while ago when they started charging $10 to book a ticket over the phone? Only, the fees people are going to get hit for, online, are going to make baggage fees look like a cake walk.

Expenses don't go away, unless you do with out. They only go to other places. That's how the economy works.


joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
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reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy See Profile :

You're not going to get "unlimited".. that was a lesson learned WAY back in the 90's that unlimited didn't pay.

250 is just fine, for these days.
I agree with two conditions;
The ISP provide a meter that's at least within 24 hrs accurate. And the overage charges be somewhat reasonable.

These two conditions will at least give the user a choice. If I am at 250GB already, and still want to watch 2 Netflix movies, well, it will cost me.

Those over even 100GB are the vocal minority, and likely heavy video streaming users. As IPTV becomes more popular, I can see the caps becoming an issue for more people. A large family with multiple TiVos trying to view a lot of HD video during summer break, and the caps are easy to blow through.

vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy See Profile :

But, do you know what the charging for overage really says to me? ... it says "We know that liberal socialists are going to tear into our core business over their golden internet service and hurt us bad, so get used to us shifting our income to the internet where you want it to be"...

It's called priming the marketplace.

Everyone wants to shove everything and the kitchen sink down the internet line... and that's fine.. many people see "great savings" with the internet.. however, it's a pipe dream. The costs that you avoided in savings only come back in another form elsewhere.. what you're going to see is that most of your money will go down the pipe in the form in the internet.

You're going to see the internet, and services, become that of the airlines and their baggage fees. I guess no one saw bag fees coming a while ago when they started charging $10 to book a ticket over the phone? Only, the fees people are going to get hit for, online, are going to make baggage fees look like a cake walk.

Expenses don't go away, unless you do with out. They only go to other places. That's how the economy works.
I'm not talking about everything and the kitchen sink, just a tolerable cap like Comcast is using.
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