 Vamp9190Premium join:2002-02-11 Chantilly, VA kudos:1 | lock in these prices LUS offers standalone symmetrical 10Mbps for $28.95, 30Mbps for $44.95, and 50Mbps for $57.95. There's no caps, no contracts, and no installation fee.
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 openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | said by Vamp9190:LUS offers standalone symmetrical 10Mbps for $28.95, 30Mbps for $44.95, and 50Mbps for $57.95. There's no caps, no contracts, and no installation fee. We'll see how long that lasts after the non-capped 50/50 Mbps connections meet P2P apps. |
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| With that much fiber in the ground, LUS could probably end up doing no-cost peering with other providers Or if they got up to the 10Gbit level get sub-$10-per-Mbit transit  |
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 | reply to openbox9 I may not understand this corectly, but it seems to me once 1 customer gets a file on p2p the rest of the LUS network customers would be pulling at 100 Mb down in network. So I do not see p2p haveing the same impact as it is said to have on other networks. It would seem most of the customers avalible upload would be used up innetwork before it got out on the greater web. So if everyone on the network downloads "super new blue-ray whatever" the network hit is only once and then it just propagates to everyone else in network.
I am sure someone will correct my logic or lack there of. |
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 jhboricuaExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-06 Minneapolis, MN | Provided the other LUS users connect to the LUS seeder, yes, the impact would be minimized. How good is the bittorrent client at connecting to seeds residing on the same network is another matter. -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein Jose A. Hernandez * System Admin * MPLS, Minnesota, USA * |
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 | reply to openbox9 And when the cost of running the network kills the whole project |
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 RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | reply to lvlorpheus said by lvlorpheus:I may not understand this corectly, but it seems to me once 1 customer gets a file on p2p the rest of the LUS network customers would be pulling at 100 Mb down in network. So I do not see p2p haveing the same impact as it is said to have on other networks. It would seem most of the customers avalible upload would be used up innetwork before it got out on the greater web. So if everyone on the network downloads "super new blue-ray whatever" the network hit is only once and then it just propagates to everyone else in network. I am sure someone will correct my logic or lack there of. Right now the current P2P utility programs do not do Network Topology checks to decide which peers to talk to. Thus the choice of another LUS peer as opposed to one on the Internet is currently random. Once you select your peers, it will tune to rely on those who deliver the fastest but this is after the fact. The only way you will insure that you get LUS peers is if your connection limit is greater than the number of non-LUS peers (the tipping point is actually based on the ratio of LUS vs Non-LUS peers but I am going for worst case).
BTW: The newest P2P Clients are supposed to have Network Topology checks soon so that the peers on your ISP's Network (LUS in this case) are preferred to the others when the initial selection is made. |
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 openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | reply to majortom1029 Agreed. I truly wish the LUS effort the best of luck, but it'll be interesting to see if they're able to sustain the project over the next few years....at least without soaking the taxpayers. |
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 openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | reply to iansltx The peers would desire something in return. I doubt that any potential peers would be happy with a peering arrangement of an ISP servicing a town of primarily residential users. |
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·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| If businesses are flocking to FUS (which they will, with 100 Mbps peer to peer speeds) then there will be a wider variety of traffic flowing through. Also, traffic will probably be more balanced due to the symmetric speeds. I'd think that down the road, at around the 10 Gbps level, peering would work just fine... |
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 openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Time will tell. If the business show up, then backbone providers may want to begin peering. Otherwise, I doubt that there will be much interest. |
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