TSI Gabe
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Re: What time frame?
Why the hell would you get 1gbps @ home when most computers out there can barely sustain it? Although I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have  |
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Matt
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| said by TSI Gabe  :Why the hell would you get 1gbps @ home when most computers out there can barely sustain it? You're stuck in a "one computer" mindset. 1Gbps opens all sorts of possibilities for time shifting video and multiple people watching IP video streams, not to mention everything else we do these days. |
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Angrychair
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Why would anyone need more than an 8088 when most people can't type more than 60wpm anyway? |
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BigVe
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With 1gbps in my area it would mean resell(my eyes turns to $ signs) |
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said by TSI Gabe :Why the hell would you get 1gbps @ home when most computers out there can barely sustain it? Although I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have It's a fair question.
Because: the way that you support innovation is to get ahead of it.
Why does Intel and AMD put out processors BEFORE there are applications that need that much power?
The USA and Canada spent the 80s and 90s in leadership technology. Asia passed us in 2000 and this move by South Korea will help ensure that the USA and Canada will be chasing their taillights for decades to come.
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Lazlow
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1gbps is only around 90MB/s (actual) or 125MB/s (theoretical). The newer (regular drives) now have a sustained throughput of 100MB/s with some of the high end drives hitting 250MB/s. Those are both in a non raid configurations. A lot of current motherboards come with built in raid capability so you can almost double those numbers when raid0 is used. Since most of the computers sold in the last few years have GigE Ethernet ports the can make good use of this kind of speed. I have set up a lot of households up with cat6 cable and GigE switches so that they would have this kind of speed in house, for all kinds of large file transfers.
Now on top of that, add what was hinted at above about multiple users in one home. A lot of homes now have a computer for every member. Mom, Dad, Brother, and Sister all online a one time can bring your "average" 16Mbps connection to its knees pretty quick.
All the above is just for today. Think about the bandwidth requirements that a household will have when the 1Gbps system is completed (3-5 years with luck?). |
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The Folsom
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Yucaipa, CA | Well put.  |
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bender
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i'd run a webhosting business to be honest.
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Matt
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| said by bender :i'd run a webhosting business to be honest. It's not the bandwidth that costs money. It's the power, power backup, cooling, and physical security that costs money. |
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bender
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1 edit | i'm not going to host google mind you.
to be honest, i'd probably lean more towards hosting game servers. |
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| If you wanted to run a hosting business, you can already get a fiber connection to do that, and a lot more than 1GBps actually.
In fact most of the hosting companies I deal with have multiple redundant connections peered to several different backbones.
If you think you're going to run web hosting off your home internet connection, unless it's just pics of the kids for grandma, you're f'ing nuts. |
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Careful now Gabe! Your age is showing!
Lazlow's absolutely right. I may live alone, but I have computers for every room in the place! Imagine for a moment a "Tech Savvy" family! (pun intended) |
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Tails
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Sanford, NC | reply to Lazlow
It's called QoS, and it works very well if you know how to use it 
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Lazlow
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How does QoS change bandwidth? It does not. It just says who gets first in line. In the example I gave lets say that each individual is watching a different stream, how will QoS help? |
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Matt
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said by Tails :It's called QoS, and it works very well if you know how to use it QoS doesn't affect inbound bandwidth unless the ISP enables it. I'd also argue that it doesn't work very well for outbound bandwidth control at all. |
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said by bender :i'd run a webhosting business to be honest. As long as you can get it done on a single IPv4 address, go nuts. |
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bender
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i run 3 counterstrike:source and 2 left for dead servers on my u-verse service and have no problems |
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Tails
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I was refering to this comment here:
"Now on top of that, add what was hinted at above about multiple users in one home. A lot of homes now have a computer for every member. Mom, Dad, Brother, and Sister all online a one time can bring your "average" 16Mbps connection to its knees pretty quick."
I don't know about you, but I used to have 4 people connected to a 3 meg down/ 384 kilobit up connection, and I was able to play online games like cz and cod4 with 70-80 ping while the rest of the family downloaded files or surfed the web.
EDIT: I have QoS enabled on my router, and throttle my own bandwidth so one app doesnt choke it out of sight.
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I'm sure most residential ISPs will also put in their TOS the usual "no servers, no reselling" clause.
Even FiOS blocks port 80 unless you have static IP, and you can't resell a residential connection.
So you may be able to get away for a short while reselling but then they'll find out eventually, shut you down and/or sue you. |
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| said by Eat Me :I'm sure most residential ISPs will also put in their TOS the usual "no servers, no reselling" clause. Even FiOS blocks port 80 unless you have static IP, and you can't resell a residential connection. So you may be able to get away for a short while reselling but then they'll find out eventually, shut you down and/or sue you. then don't charge rent for the server. charge rent for storage of data. call it consulting? it just seems like a waste of a perfectly good pipe if people are not able to use it to its full potential.
this is one of those subjects that really should be taken care of once and for all with some net neutrality. internet service should be transparent. as in i should never have to call them to unblock a frigin port. its the most rediculous thing i've ever heard of.
you'd have to be pretty silly to have a large server farm on a residential connection. i'd go the extra distance and get a business account if it would give me some guaranteed level of service (unlike most residential companies). although i don't see how a "business" account actually costs any more than a regular residential account. except for the different wording in the service agreeement. |
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