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jl747
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Mount Prospect, IL | This is not a stimulus bill. It is a spending bill.
Full of pork. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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said by rdmiller:I want Net Neutrality. I want 100Mbps/20Mbps. I want it to be free. Better still, I want the telco to pay me for accepting their service. There! I would love to upgrade my 50mbs/20mbs service to 100mbs/20mbs. Or even better 100mbs/40mbs. |
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 ahedgePremium
join:2002-05-14
Shepherd, TX | reply to jl747
said by jl747:This is not a stimulus bill. It is a spending bill. Full of pork. Such as? Can you point at the pork in that bill? |
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to jl747
ALL gov't spending is pork...ALL of it. Whether you think it is solely depends on what constituency group you're in. |
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said by ahedge:said by jl747:This is not a stimulus bill. It is a spending bill. Full of pork. Such as? Can you point at the pork in that bill? Are you serious? Have you been living under a rock the last 3 days? Point at the pork in that bill?
Just a few for giggles...
Page 32: $1.5 billion (with a “B”) for a “carbon-capturing contest”
P. 45: “$25,000,000 is for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes, and $20,000,000 is for trail maintenance and restoration.” ATV owners, rejoice.
$54 billion will go to federal programs that the Office of Management and Budget or the Government Accountability Office have already criticized as “ineffective” or unable to pass basic financial audits.
Page 41: The Coast Guard wants more than $572 million for “Acquisition, Construction, & Improvements” They claim these funds will create 1,235 new jobs. Crunch the numbers and this brings the cost of “creating” each job to a staggering $460,000+
Take your partisan blinders off for one second and see for yourself... |
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ahedgePremium
join:2002-05-14
Shepherd, TX | Thank you, I'll check those. I hate pork too, but would a few items make a 640+ page bill full of pork? And you speak of partisan blinders? |
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ahedgePremium
join:2002-05-14
Shepherd, TX | reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:ALL gov't spending is pork...ALL of it. Whether you think it is solely depends on what constituency group you're in. Well, you have a point there but the size of the constituency and the scope of the legislation can make a difference. |
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Lol, those were but just a few and you would be doing yourself a favor by not only checking "those" few that I included but the multitude that I did not! (Yes, there are a multitude of earmarks that do NOTHING to stimulate the economy that add up to billions and billions!)
Yes, I do speak of partisan blinders as is evident in your reply... 
Get over your party politics and have our govt. do what is right for our nation! |
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said by ahedge:Thank you, I'll check those. I hate pork too, but would a few items make a 640+ page bill full of pork? And you speak of partisan blinders? $1B to Amtrak
$2B in "child care subsidies"
$50M to the National Endowment of the Arts
$650M for DTV coupons
$7B to "modernize" federal buildings
$66B to Education
....absolutely NONE of which can be considered "stimulus". Note that I am taking issue with these programs other than to say that they don't belong in a "stimulus" bill. |
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ahedgePremium
join:2002-05-14
Shepherd, TX
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said by Scotty6595:Lol, those were but just a few and you would be doing yourself a favor by not only checking "those" few that I included but the multitude that I did not! (Yes, there are a multitude of earmarks that do NOTHING to stimulate the economy that add up to billions and billions!) Yes, I do speak of partisan blinders as is evident in your reply... Get over your party politics and have our govt. do what is right for our nation! Well said, but WHAT is right for our nation? So far what you pointed at doesn't strike me as pork. Usually I have a gag reflex when looking at pork, but didn't happen now.
Anyway, I would have to understand better what the implications are for those items. How come you are so sure it is pork?
Anyway, we are way OT. Pork aside, giving more broadband to rural areas seems a worthwhile effort to me. |
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ahedgePremium
join:2002-05-14
Shepherd, TX | reply to shadow700
said by shadow700:said by ahedge:Thank you, I'll check those. I hate pork too, but would a few items make a 640+ page bill full of pork? And you speak of partisan blinders? $1B to Amtrak $2B in "child care subsidies" $50M to the National Endowment of the Arts $650M for DTV coupons $7B to "modernize" federal buildings $66B to Education ....absolutely NONE of which can be considered "stimulus". Note that I am taking issue with these programs other than to say that they don't belong in a "stimulus" bill. And I agree with you on that, having a separate bill for stimulus action items would have made a clearer cut. Anyway, what's not stimulus in that bill is not necessarily pork (I am not saying there isn't any).
I am still giving the Dems and Obama the benefit of the doubt. They are rushing to get something running ASAP. Many people who lost their jobs are hurting out there and some of the measures I saw will soothe that pain. The sooner the better, seems to be their mantra. |
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Rialto, CA | reply to aaronwt
I want the government to pay for all this so that it is free to me. I can't afford it otherwise. |
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said by ahedge:They are rushing to get something running ASAP. Many people who lost their jobs are hurting out there and some of the measures I saw will soothe that pain. The sooner the better, seems to be their mantra. If you follow their plan, a total of 7% of the "stimulus" bill would be injected into the economy this year. The other 93% will NOT help the people you are concerned about. |
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