JasonOD
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Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business? |
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ISurfTooMuch
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Tuscaloosa, AL | Then should a town not launch a public transit system because it might take business from taxicabs? |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to JasonOD
Absolutely, especially when they're nothing but sue happy roadblocks to progress. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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What I think these need to be doing is facilitating competition without bringing physical competition. The governmenet/private funded fiber should be build but no access provided directly by any government agency. Instead they should allow any company who wishes to pay a fee/per X customers for maintenance & bandwidth but allow any company who wants to do so. That will provide the customers a choice of any X provider they wish to go with and without one or two large companies dominating a region with their own infrastructure and preventing other companies from competing in a given region.
Why cant they do that?
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Matt
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business?
If the local company isn't providing an adequate service and refuses to, absolutely. |
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Matt
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said by jimbo2150  :What I think these need to be doing is facilitating competition without bringing physical competition. The governmenet/private funded fiber should be build but no access provided directly by any government agency. Instead they should allow any company who wishes to pay a fee/per X customers for maintenance & bandwidth but allow any company who wants to do so. That will provide the customers a choice of any X provider they wish to go with and without one or two large companies dominating a region with their own infrastructure and preventing other companies from competing in a given region. Why cant they do that? You just described UTOPIA.
The problem with this model, is the Comcasts, AT&Ts, and Time Warners of the world don't have exclusive access to your eyes, ears, and wallet, so they don't like this idea. |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
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One way to do this would be to build a network and connect every residence and business at no charge. That connection would get you access to local government Web sites (offering extensive e-services), video access to local public access channels, and telephone access to 911 and local government offices. That's it. For a small fee, you could get access to anything on the local fiber network, and, if you wanted TV, Internet, and phone service, you could contract with any provider who has connected to the network. |
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whosmatt
join:2005-02-28
Raleigh, NC | reply to JasonOD
Why would this put a local company out of business? |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business?
comcast, ATT and time-warner are local companies? Just poor, struggling, small footprint local companies? |
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business? Okay, I'll bite. First, from the article:
The user notes that the local cable competitor is Bresnan Communications. Doing a bit of digging on Bresnan's site yields:
Today, Bresnan Communications operates in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming and Utah. and
Corporate Headquarters
Bresnan Communications
One Manhattanville Road
Purchase, NY 10577-2596
914.641.3300
Bresnan isn't a local company, they are headquartered in New York,. The community is better off running its own network to keep the money local.
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wifi4milez
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said by Matt :said by jimbo2150 :What I think these need to be doing is facilitating competition without bringing physical competition. The governmenet/private funded fiber should be build but no access provided directly by any government agency. Instead they should allow any company who wishes to pay a fee/per X customers for maintenance & bandwidth but allow any company who wants to do so. That will provide the customers a choice of any X provider they wish to go with and without one or two large companies dominating a region with their own infrastructure and preventing other companies from competing in a given region. Why cant they do that? You just described UTOPIA. The problem with this model, is the Comcasts, AT&Ts, and Time Warners of the world don't have exclusive access to your eyes, ears, and wallet, so they don't like this idea. The other problem is that Utopia was a money pit, and thats why it failed. Since it was basically managed by a municipality that had no idea what they were doing, they blew through the allocated money with no real planning. A private company on the other hand, is typically more inclined to watch their bottom line since (without these outrageous bailouts!) going out of business is the end of the line.
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JazzJRabbit
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business?
If municipality can provide better service for lesser price without using any taxpayer money it means that it's more efficient than local companies. So hell yes it should. |
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business?
Local Company!? Bresnan Communications is a owned lock stock and barrel by Comcast. So it is rather the reverse
it is the local David taking on Goliath.
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cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business? Do many municipalities of 5500 have local broadband providers that would be put out of business? Yeah, I didn't think so either. |
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ayn3090
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government shouldn't be involved in transportation, nor education. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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said by Matt :You just described UTOPIA. I know, I have been following the project. It was done incorrectly (I agree with wifi4milez ), but I think it can be done correctly and with government and business involved. But I think that we need to kick the businesses in the pants because:
said by Matt :The problem with this model, is the Comcasts, AT&Ts, and Time Warners of the world don't have exclusive access to your eyes, ears, and wallet, so they don't like this idea. Oh boo-hoo :P
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