plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
3 edits | [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated! What if someone got KILLED?
First I got the dead RR line and then the email from Time Warner accusing me of theft... now they throttle my connection? I think my line is specifically being targeted now. So, how to test... or what to do? THAT is the real question.
For everyone... what to do to get a better line? Not just for this new P2P issue, but in general?
What if I was "special" somehow, and got an untapped line?  How to be "special"? (note, not "illegal") |
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rra
Advice
join:2008-09-19
Kingsville, MO | Re: [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated!
Can you please explain yourself alittle? I have no idea what you are complaining about or what you are asking. |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
4 edits | I didn't think anyone was listening. The short version is that RR is in FACT throttling my connection and I want to keep an eye on exactly what they are up to. I am about to install the DeeEnEss client to do just that.
The long version is much more fun...
About feeling violated, noted in the subject text: I did not like the fact that my ISP is cooperating with another organization against me... especially one not directly related to law enforcement (but that brings up a whole ton of schmack).
What happened: My line was killed and I was contacted by Time Warner RoadRunner that I was stealing from the RIAA (or some other IP holder). I was forced into a VERIFICATION ACKNOWLEDGMENT web site (where I was to assume guilt and make a promise to take action) in return for the restoration of my service. This is way outta hand for an ISP, and it is going to kill them soon if they don't change their ways.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine yesterday, from another city but the same TWC (RR) provider.
The bigger problem is now they are totally throttling my P2P bandwidth. In fact, if I so much as ping the wrong IP now my entire connection resets itself. Totally kills everything, even my VoIP line with emergency services (911) on 'em. They are going to be sued out of existence if they don't fix this. |
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Reinvent3d
join:2004-12-06
Camarillo, CA
| Time Warner has EVERY right to discontinue your service, if you are violating ANY of the Terms of Service.
If you are indeed downloading illegal material, and caught, then yes, they have every right to disable your service. Nothing you can do about it, except that you got caught.
You lose all rights and credibility if you downloaded illegal material and got caught. |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
4 edits | What are you talking about? Are you the TOS Police? Do you work for RR? I wasn't "caught"?! In fact, who said anything about that? I am doing nothing illegal, and that was not the point. Why go off-topic? You obviously have some nefarious agenda and are due some extra attention.
Actually, since you brought it up... the opposite is in fact the case. What they did is illegal, and they will stop... hopefully before someone dies.
Whats with the hostility? Gezz. Some people need therapy more then others, I suppose. |
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torrentgirl
@charter.com | reply to plvick
Re: [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated!
nailed up'n a torrent I bet.
The notice you got has a file named on it, what was it? |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
2 edits | The "notice" was a self-expiring web page that had the info you want (like that is going to help their case; it's detrimental at best)... so I don't have it on hand (but I can regenerate that data if necessary). I suppose if you wanna chat about that sorta thing just PM me... but that is again going off-topic... |
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
4 edits | reply to plvick
said by plvick  :What happened: My line was killed and I was contacted by Time Warner RoadRunner that I was stealing from the RIAA (or some other IP holder). I was forced into a VERIFICATION ACKNOWLEDGMENT web site (where I was to assume guilt and make a promise to take action) in return for the restoration of my service. This is way outta hand for an ISP, and it is going to kill them soon if they don't change their ways. Hint: Don't download not upload materials you don't have distribution rights of.
It could be me, but I thought that with all the media attention, it isn't THAT hard to understand that you can't upload copyrighted material, which is what P2P does.
»RIAA Replaces Mass Lawsuits With Potentially Dumber Ideas
Specifically read this:
"Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether. The RIAA said it has agreements in principle with some ISPs, but declined to say which ones."
Apparantly, TWC is one of those ISPs..... and you just got busted uploading copyrighted materials.
You got busted. Deal with it and stop using P2P. |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
2 edits | I was not "busted". What is wrong with you people? I know all this; and it's not the point. Your message does nothing to further this conversation, except for the link (awesome, BTW)... it's only rude. |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by plvick :I was not "busted". What is wrong with you people? I know all this... and it's not the point. Your message does nothing to further this conversation. So if you know all that.... you know why your P2P is slower, and you know what to do.
Did you have specific questions, or did you dump RoadRunner already? |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
2 edits | There are plenty of specific questions I have put forth here... you could start with the very first one: how to keep an eye on what RR is doing to my line? There are some other questions that follow, some real close to the first one (I just quickly counted seven question marks in the first message alone)... did you even read the message? But first, what is with the hostility? |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by plvick :There are plenty of specific questions I have put forth here... but first, what is with the hostility? I am not really hostile. Although I do admit you do sound pretty dumb if you have to come complain on an online forum about something you yourself are the sole cause of.  |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
4 edits | But I am not, your making an assumption again... one that is off-topic, again. If anything that makes you sound "pretty dumb", not me. We could talk along these lines if you wish. The thing is, even the assumption that the main purpose of my message was to complain, is not the case either. |
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torrentgirl
@charter.com
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Re: [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated! What if someone got KILLED?
said by plvick :First I got the dead RR line and then the email from Time Warner accusing me of theft... This is called getting "busted".
said by plvick :So, how to test... or what to do? THAT is the real question. What to do? Don't up stuff you don't have rights to. How to test? Does someone else claim right to it? If yes, don't upload it.
said by plvick :For everyone... what to do to get a better line? Not just for this new P2P issue, but in general? Pay a different provider for better service or pay your current provider for a higher tier of service. Uping copyrighted stuff will get you busted though...
said by plvick :What if I was "special" somehow, and got an untapped line? How to be "special"? Uncapping is verboten and it'll get you kicked here |
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rra
Advice
join:2008-09-19
Kingsville, MO | reply to plvick
Sounds like you are on "probation" with your isp. Their next course of action might be to disable your rr connection entirely. |
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torrentgirl
@charter.com | reply to plvick
Re: [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated!
What wrong IPs are you pinging, I'd like to play with those bad boys myself... |
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plvick
join:2008-12-22
San Antonio, TX
1 edit | reply to torrentgirl
Re: [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated! What if someone got KILLED?
torrentgirl... You can call getting the letter getting busted, but that is not accurate. All of your followup answers are based on your assumption that I got "busted". Thanks for nothing. |
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to plvick
Re: [TWC] OMG I Feel so violated!
said by plvick :But I am not, your making an assumption again... one that is off-topic, again. But we could talk along these lines if you wish. The thing is, even the assumption that the main purpose of my message was to complain, is not the case either. Then what about the situation is not clear enough to you that you need to open a topic about it? |
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