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Matt
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Re: $20,000 a day?

said by TamaraB See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

... Where do you think the caching DNS server gets it's answers?
Directly from the ROOT servers, totally bypassing your ISP. The root server points you directly to the authoritative DNS server of the domain you want to access.

Bob
You're correct. I was confusing a caching name server with a name server that is authoritative for a specific zone. If you have a zone configured, your name server requires a forwarder for all zones it's not authoritative for.

I run DNS for my LAN, which was causing my confusion.

DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
By default windows dns servers (meaning windows servers with the DNS role added)

point to the root servers so you don't have to set the forwarders and it regularly updates its root hints file


Matt
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said by DarkLogix See Profile :

By default windows dns servers (meaning windows servers with the DNS role added)

point to the root servers so you don't have to set the forwarders and it regularly updates its root hints file
Unless you configure a zone. I run MS DNS at home and if you configure a forward lookup zone (like I have for my LAN, universe.local) and don't configure forwarders, it will return an NXDOMAIN result for any domain that isn't universe.local.

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You just need to check the root hints list
I have an MS dns server at home as well and didn't set any forwards and just rechecked the root hints

and internal dns for my website works aswell as resolving external

and I have reverce and forward zones but not forwarders

DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
on the other hand I also have it runing as a domain controler

whosmatt

join:2005-02-28
Raleigh, NC

reply to Matt
The correct distinction is forwarding DNS server (dnsmasq found in most residential gateway appliances) vs recursive dns server (BIND,windows, etc can do both), which takes a query, starts with the root servers, and keeps going until it ultimately gets the answer it wants.

dnsmasq in its default setting will forward queries to another server or servers. one very useful feature of dnsmasq is that you can have it simultaneously forward to multiple servers and return whatever result comes back fastest.

-m


funchords
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Is dnsmasq the same thing as "DNS relay"? TIA --


espaeth
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dnsmasq is a lightweight caching DNS / local DHCP server:

»www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html


Matt
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Is dnsmasq the same thing as "DNS relay"? TIA --
It can act as a DNS relay, yes.


kontos
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said by Matt See Profile :

my LAN, universe.local) and don't configure forwarders, it will return an NXDOMAIN result for any domain that isn't universe.local.
You're doing something wrong, then.


kontos
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said by espaeth See Profile :

dnsmasq is a lightweight caching DNS / local DHCP server:

»www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html
It doesn't cache.


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said by kontos See Profile :

said by espaeth See Profile :

dnsmasq is a lightweight caching DNS / local DHCP server:

»www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html
It doesn't cache.
said by »www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html :

Dnsmasq caches internet addresses (A records and AAAA records) and address-to-name mappings (PTR records), reducing the load on upstream servers and improving performance (especially on modem connections).

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