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dennilfloss
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They raised the monthly Ontario Permanent Disability cheque

By $20. I'm now getting $1001 per month.

That extra $20 sure is welcome. Went tonight and bought more food.

I'm in a good mood now.


dirtyjeffer
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here's something funny, it's a 2% difference...yet you seem so happy about it...kind of funny how people said the 2% GST cut was nothing, yet the 2% you got really does help out, doesn't it?
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Snickerdo
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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

here's something funny, it's a 2% difference...yet you seem so happy about it...kind of funny how people said the 2% GST cut was nothing, yet the 2% you got really does help out, doesn't it?
HAH! Well played jeffer, well played indeed!
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CigaR
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reply to dirtyjeffer
Good on ya Dennil !

said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

here's something funny, it's a 2% difference...yet you seem so happy about it...kind of funny how people said the 2% GST cut was nothing, yet the 2% you got really does help out, doesn't it?
How convenient for Conservatives to say that.

Besides, GST is Federal while the Permanent Disability cheque is Provincial. There's no correlation between both.

Pepsi90919

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What do you (not) do again?


dennilfloss
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said by Pepsi90919 See Profile :

What do you (not) do again?
I was a geology lecturer (paleontology).


Snickerdo
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How convenient for Conservatives to say that.
His comment had nothing to do with convenience. It makes perfect sense.


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reply to dennilfloss
Wow--I feel better now. I get a little over double that after taxes. Damn unions.


dennilfloss
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reply to dennilfloss
GST affects only a few items for me (for example, food isn't covered by the GST) and I get a GST return three times a year to compensate for that. So the 2% increase in funding helps me a lot more than a 2% cut in GST. I think this would apply to most poor people.

Robrr

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Toronto, ON
Well put dennifloss.

Like I said previously dj, people are always much happier seeing money on their pay cheque then trying to find it on their budget sheet.


donoreo
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reply to dennilfloss
said by dennilfloss See Profile :

GST affects only a few items for me (for example, food isn't covered by the GST) and I get a GST return three times a year to compensate for that. So the 2% increase in funding helps me a lot more than a 2% cut in GST. I think this would apply to most poor people.
I would have to agree with this, in your case and others similar. However, DJ does make a valid point for others not in your situation.
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Robert
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said by donoreo See Profile :

I would have to agree with this, in your case and others similar. However, DJ does make a valid point for others not in your situation.
Were this Canpol, then I would agree, dj raining on dennilfloss's thread is very grinchy
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dirtyjeffer
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said by Robrr See Profile :

Well put dennifloss.

Like I said previously dj, people are always much happier seeing money on their pay cheque then trying to find it on their budget sheet.
the reality is, at the end of the day, dennilfloss has an extra $20 per month and is enjoying that little bit extra...well, for the rest of us, who also enjoy an extra $20 per month in savings of GST, we like having that little bit extra just as much...my point was, some of you (you know who you are) criticized the cuts and the amount saved as being a pittance...myself and others argued that the little extra can still come in handy, especially when times are tough.
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Hydraglass
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reply to dirtyjeffer
Re: They raised the monthly Ontario Permanent Disability cheque

said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

the reality is, at the end of the day, dennilfloss has an extra $20 per month and is enjoying that little bit extra...well, for the rest of us, who also enjoy an extra $20 per month in savings of GST, we like having that little bit extra just as much...my point was, some of you (you know who you are) criticized the cuts and the amount saved as being a pittance...myself and others argued that the little extra can still come in handy, especially when times are tough.
My wife and I calculated our monthly savings after the GST cut and it's definitely been a good thing for us - every utility bill went down by 2%, our insurance went down 2%, all of our monthly non-food/grocery purchases went down by 2%, our entertainment expenses went down by 2%, etc... we figured over an entire month looking at our bank statements, receipts, etc. that it saves us almost $40/mo - that's an extra $480/year raise we didn't have to do anything to get.


dirtyjeffer
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said by Hydraglass See Profile :

My wife and I calculated our monthly savings after the GST cut and it's definitely been a good thing for us - every utility bill went down by 2%, our insurance went down 2%, all of our monthly non-food/grocery purchases went down by 2%, our entertainment expenses went down by 2%, etc... we figured over an entire month looking at our bank statements, receipts, etc. that it saves us almost $40/mo - that's an extra $480/year raise we didn't have to do anything to get.
i think ours is fairly close to that as well...people forget about things like insurance, car lease payments, etc...it all adds up.
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horsemouth
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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

said by Hydraglass See Profile :

My wife and I calculated our monthly savings after the GST cut and it's definitely been a good thing for us - every utility bill went down by 2%, our insurance went down 2%, all of our monthly non-food/grocery purchases went down by 2%, our entertainment expenses went down by 2%, etc... we figured over an entire month looking at our bank statements, receipts, etc. that it saves us almost $40/mo - that's an extra $480/year raise we didn't have to do anything to get.
i think ours is fairly close to that as well...people forget about things like insurance, car lease payments, etc...it all adds up.
People also tend to forget that part of apt. rent goes to pay GST. I just shake my head in disbelief when some people say "most of my money goes to food and rent. The GST is no big deal for me"


dirtyjeffer
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said by horsemouth See Profile :

People also tend to forget that part of apt. rent goes to pay GST. I just shake my head in disbelief when some people say "most of my money goes to food and rent. The GST is no big deal for me"
in all fairness, i doubt people's rent went down from the GST...i am sure that would have simply increased the margins by 1%, if that is even affected by GST...i would have thought rent money was tax exempt to begin with, and the rent money would be considered income or revenue for the landlord.
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Clipper

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December 3rd, @10:13AM

reply to horsemouth
said by horsemouth See Profile :

People also tend to forget that part of apt. rent goes to pay GST. I just shake my head in disbelief when some people say "most of my money goes to food and rent. The GST is no big deal for me"
I don't about anyone else, but my rent didn't go down because of the GST cut.

And much like the $5 drink and sandwich deal at my local mom & pop sub shop, I'm sure there's many, many instances where a retailer 'absorbed' the gst cut for pricing convenience.

It's simply a modified trickle down effect. Some places pass on the savings, others do not.

Therefore, not all goods and services that apply GST had savings realized.

horsemouth
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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

said by horsemouth See Profile :

People also tend to forget that part of apt. rent goes to pay GST. I just shake my head in disbelief when some people say "most of my money goes to food and rent. The GST is no big deal for me"
in all fairness, i doubt people's rent went down from the GST...i am sure that would have simply increased the margins by 1%, if that is even affected by GST...i would have thought rent money was tax exempt to begin with, and the rent money would be considered income or revenue for the landlord.
You are right that rent did not go down for most but there was less pressure on the landlord to put it up. Don't forget that a landlord pays GST on almost everything he buys for the building and has no way to recoup the tax as other business do. ex. tax credit.
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