zaptor99
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1 edit | CRTC ruling coming Thursday Nov 20
»saveournet.ca/content/media-advi···-freedom |
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kingb71
join:2000-10-09
Mississauga, ON
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| By 9am apparently, which means a decision has already been reached, I wonder if there will be a leak tonight?
Here's the full blurb:
Media Advisory: CRTC to Make Landmark Decision on Internet Freedom
Submitted by Steve Anderson on Wed, 11/19/2008 - 22:16.
Media Advisory: CRTC to Make Landmark Decision on Internet Freedom
Decision to define Canada’s digital path
According to the CBC, after twice delaying the ruling, the CRTC will make a landmark decision on the Bell Throttling case by 9 a.m. tomorrow. The decision will determine whether Bell Canada has violated the Telecommunications Act by slowing down the Internet access it sells to wholesale customers.
Steve Anderson from SaveOurNet.ca coalition will be available for comment.
Steve said today, “This decision has huge implications for Internet service competition online innovation, consumer choice and free speech. The biggest battle over the Internet is yet to come, but this ruling will signal whether the CRTC is willing to take action to put Canada on a path that supports online innovation, and online choice. Otherwise the CRTC is abdicating its responsibility to Canadian people and putting us on a path towards a more closed Internet defined by the interests of big telecom companies.”
Bell began throttling its own Sympatico retail customers in October 2007, and extended the practice in March to CAIP members, which rent portions of Bell's network to provide internet service to their own customers. The CRTC rejected CAIP's call for an immediate cease-and-desist order but launched a public investigation into Bell's actions.
About SaveOurNet.ca:
SaveOurNet.ca is a coalition of citizens, businesses, and public interest groups fighting to protect our Internet's level playing field. We're calling on lawmakers and industry to protect openness, choice, and access for ALL Canadians — and stopping lobbyists and special interests from ruining Canada's Internet.
A list of coalition members can be found here:
»saveournet.ca/members
Background information about the issue of Net Neutrality can be found in our “Fact vs Fiction” report:
»saveournet.ca/sites/default/file···_FvF.pdf
Background information on the CAIP proceeding can be found in this Campaign for Democratic Media submission to the CRTC:
»www.cippic.ca/uploads/CIPPIC_CAI···INAL.pdf
Previous Press Release on this ruling:
»saveournet.ca/content/coalition-···en-inter...
Media reports on tomorrow’s decision:
»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···ref=rss:
»www.p2pnet.net/story/17638
More at: »saveournet.ca
Contact:
Steve Anderson
SaveOurNet.ca
Coordinator
604-837-5730
steve@democraticmedia.ca |
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small att span
@videotron.ca
| said by kingb71  :By 9am apparently, which means a decision has already been reached, Correction:
A decision was made WEEKS ago.
Refer to:
»CRTC keeps CAIP in the dark
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»www.p2pnet.net/story/17639
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Just in case you mentioned this already and I didn't see it, sorry to re-itterate. Your post was long and my attention span is mall.  |
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kingb71
join:2000-10-09
Mississauga, ON | those slimy fuckers!! |
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kingb71
join:2000-10-09
Mississauga, ON | Re: CRTC ruling coming Thursday Nov 20
nice! I feel....honoured! |
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bows once
@videotron.ca | /me bows before the almighty and literaty g*d kingb71 |
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Typo boss
@videotron.ca | *literary*
Typo |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
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There was no question that the CRTC would delay revealing its decision when t became obvious an alection was to be called and await for the new government to get established.
I have to wonder if the CRTC waited for parliament to reconvene. Throne speech today. CRTC gets to publish its decision the next day.
I would not be susprised if Harper had some big bombshell tomorrow which would crystalise the media's attention around that and thus ignore the CRTC decision.
Note that Tony Clement was in Detroit today, busy with the demise of the car industry. Perhaps he'll announce some major car bailout tomorrow. |
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
3 edits | Man get real your normal person on the street could give two damns about this stuff. The CRTC has no reason to delay anything cause of how someone may react.
Don't fool yourself into thinking this is some big issue people in Canada care about. I mean what is going to happen if they rule on bells side? I don't think the CRTC going to be scared cause people will be insulting them on the net.
Mean reason I want bell to lose is so I can laugh at all the people who been saying crazy crap like the CRTC is being paid off it's all Harper's doing and other such goofy crap. |
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xdrag
join:2005-02-18
North York, ON | reply to zaptor99
For one thing, bell is still throttling me to 50kb/s. I doubt anything good will turn up tmr. |
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Sempronius
join:2008-09-18
Toronto, ON
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said by TOPDAWG : What is going to happen if they rule on bells side? In that case, collectively, we launch a class action law suit against Bell.
said by TOPDAWG :Main reason I want bell to lose is so I can laugh at all the people who been saying crazy crap like the CRTC is being paid off it's all Harper's doing and other such goofy crap. It's this kind of attitude that shows how much you do not know of what has been happening over the past 8 months. |
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matradley
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Ontario | reply to zaptor99
Not to be pessimistic, I think that we should prepare for the worst outcome. It seems that the CRTC seems to love to support the corporation over the people they serve. |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
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said by TOPDAWG :Man get real your normal person on the street could give two damns about this stuff. The CRTC has no reason to delay anything cause of how someone may react. Don't fool yourself into thinking this is some big issue people in Canada care about. I mean what is going to happen if they rule on bells side? I don't think the CRTC going to be scared cause people will be insulting them on the net. Thinking you should brace yourself for a controlled internet soon then.... Bell/Rogers has everything to gain by having people remain ignorant of what is happening.
If you thinking this is a small issue... all I can tell you is wait and see!
Rocky
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| What he means isn't that the issue isn't big, only that it doesn't matter to the majority of Canadians. So what he's saying is that in the public conscience, the issue is small. They either don't know about it (or what net neutrality is), or don't think it's important compared to other concerns like healthcare or the economy.
Some people know about it, but just don't realize how much it will impact things. |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| said by Guspaz :What he means isn't that the issue isn't big, only that it doesn't matter to the majority of Canadians. So what he's saying is that in the public conscience, the issue is small. They either don't know about it (or what net neutrality is), or don't think it's important compared to other concerns like healthcare or the economy. Some people know about it, but just don't realize how much it will impact things. Yup... I know that... Which is why I said, wait and see. This issue will blow up shortly when people start seeing service issues going to facebook/google/youtube/etc, because of Bell/Rogers/etc, or when they can't make a trade for sports/gambling/stocks due to throttling... They'll start to clue in in a hurry!
There's a learning curve that will be required, no doubt, but when it starts watch out!
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Sempronius
join:2008-09-18
Toronto, ON | What Bell and Rogers is attempting to do is keep their subscriber's within the realms of their domain, hence, being the Gate Keeper. Once inside, the Gate will be securely locked and entrance beyond the Gate denied. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
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What I fear is that the changes will be so slow and subtle that people won't notice.
You know, like the boiling frog analogy; throw a frog into boiling water and it jumps out, throw a frog into cold water and heat it slowly and it dies from the heat because it doesn't notice the slow increase. |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| said by Guspaz :What I fear is that the changes will be so slow and subtle that people won't notice. You know, like the boiling frog analogy; throw a frog into boiling water and it jumps out, throw a frog into cold water and heat it slowly and it dies from the heat because it doesn't notice the slow increase. True, but there are some around the industry who are going to make sure this front and centre as fast and as long as possible! 
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Sempronius
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Toronto, ON
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