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Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA


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Re: It was so easy to see...

said by furionbr See Profile :

when you have something that was free and open coded, and you transform that in something paid, bad things will happen.
While there will always be bitching when something free and open coded is transformed into something paid (think Red Hat) this was more like transforming into what most people consider evil.


King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC
Yeah, but at least you can still get Red Hat's source code, and modify it (that's where White Box and CentOS come from). This isn't the case with uTorrent.


dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus

join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI

reply to Sammer
Red Hat didn't do that. Their products are still open source. Last I checked even their enterprise server was. Red Hat makes their money on service contracts and providing servers and whatnot. They don't sell the software product itself.
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16

Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

said by King P See Profile :

Yeah, but at least you can still get Red Hat's source code, and modify it (that's where White Box and CentOS come from). This isn't the case with uTorrent.
said by dnoyeB See Profile :

Red Hat didn't do that. Their products are still open source. Last I checked even their enterprise server was. Red Hat makes their money on service contracts and providing servers and whatnot. They don't sell the software product itself.
You guys are making my point and AFAIK Enterprise Server is not open source because it contains proprietary code from third parties. Some in the open source community still bitched about the change in Red Hat's business model but that is very different from how most people view adding DRM and associating BitTorrent with the **AAs.


DONTSUEMEREDHAT

@rr.com

said by Sammer See Profile :

said by King P See Profile :

Yeah, but at least you can still get Red Hat's source code, and modify it (that's where White Box and CentOS come from). This isn't the case with uTorrent.
said by dnoyeB See Profile :

Red Hat didn't do that. Their products are still open source. Last I checked even their enterprise server was. Red Hat makes their money on service contracts and providing servers and whatnot. They don't sell the software product itself.
You guys are making my point and AFAIK Enterprise Server is not open source because it contains proprietary code from third parties. Some in the open source community still bitched about the change in Red Hat's business model but that is very different from how most people view adding DRM and associating BitTorrent with the **AAs.
i know this is a bit off topic, but I'm really curious, what proprietary code? if anything, i'd say RHEL isn't exactly free because you can't update it without paying for updates.


Yuppy_yix

@co.us

reply to dnoyeB
Agreed, and if you don't want Red Hat, get CentOS. The whole idea that FOSS doesn't make money is hooey and FUD. Same with Ubuntu. How does Canonical pay their employees? I'm sorry, but just how did the creator of BitTorrent lose his perspective on things? I'm sure the record companies are dangling poison carrots.
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