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"RipIt", a Mac the Ripper alternative

 
 
If you're like me, you've decided to avoid Mac the Ripper because the developer seems like a total nut job. In the mean time, you've been loading up Windows in a VM and using free Windows software to do the ripper. Quite the PITA.

Just in case you missed this, TUAW.com had an article on this great piece of software, RipIt. I've only tried out a few of my DVDs on it, but it seems to work great. The interface is drop-dead simple, and updates seem to come out very frequently to add support for new protection schemes on new DVD releases.

It's not free, at $18.99, but with a 7-day free trial, it might be worth a shot.

EDIT: Fixed link.

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Re: "RipIt", a Mac the Ripper alternative

I haven't tried it in a very long time, but does FairMount work with all the latest protections? It's free from what I remember.

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Re: "RipIt", a Mac the Ripper alternative

said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

I haven't tried it in a very long time, but does FairMount work with all the latest protections?
Nope, not so good with new releases from Sony.

I will try Ripit with a few of my DVDs that caused Fairmount to crash.
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said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

I haven't tried it in a very long time, but does FairMount work with all the latest protections? It's free from what I remember.
I've not had any problems, but I might not be ripping the right things... It's my understanding that if VLC can play the disc, FM can rip it.

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I use handbrake personally. The price is right (read: FREE).

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said by cybergoober See Profile :

I use handbrake personally. The price is right (read: FREE).
According to the some posts by developers in the Handbrake forums, DVD ripping capability will not be further developed in the new releases. In fact, IIRC, DVD-decrypting will be remove entirely in future releases.
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said by WALL_E See Profile :

said by cybergoober See Profile :

I use handbrake personally. The price is right (read: FREE).
According to the some posts by developers in the Handbrake forums, DVD ripping capability will not be further developed in the new releases. In fact, IIRC, DVD-decrypting will be remove entirely in future releases.
Sure but all they did was remove it and leverage VLC ripping:
http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7230

It just means you need to install VLC when installing Handbrake.

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I use Mactheripper and it works fine.

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said by EveryName See Profile :

I use Mactheripper and it works fine.
For me, it's a problem that the only publicly-available version of Mac the Ripper is a very old (2.6.6) release that doesn't run natively on Intel Macs. To get the latest versions (3.0 r14, I believe,) you either have to jump through hoops and "donate" to the developer, or acquire it through less legitimate means.

If he wants to make the software commercial, fine. I don't have a problem paying for good software and compensating developers for their time. If he wants to keep it free, even better! But this bullshit about having to donate through the forums and then getting e-mailed the download... sounds sketchy. If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the code he's using has been "borrowed" from others, and if he were to actually sell it, he would be in some legal trouble.

Personally, I'd rather support developers who actively maintain their product, have an open line of communication with customers, and have a clear buying option.

Besides, I think I remember hearing complaints in the MTR forums that new releases were "phoning home" to the developer to check to see if the installed version is licensed. I don't care how good his software works, the MTR guy isn't getting any money from me, and I'm not trusting his software on my machine.

All IMHO, of course. I'm not saying that just because it doesn't work for me, it can't work for you. I just wanted to clarify why I would want to avoid MTR in the first place.
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2 year old with sticky hands + Calliou videos=MacTheRipper rocks for duplicates. And since I already own the DVDs, it's totally legal.

....and if I hear "I'm just a kid who's four..." again, I'm going to break all the original DVDs myself!
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It does get a little tough to get software when it's a federal (US) felony to distribute it.

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said by russotto See Profile :

It does get a little tough to get software when it's a federal (US) felony to distribute it.
Seems like a fairly clear case of fair use to me. I'll continue to rip DVDs I own regardless of the government's bogus interpretation of copyright laws.
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said by WALL_E See Profile :

Seems like a fairly clear case of fair use to me. I'll continue to rip DVDs I own regardless of the government's bogus interpretation of copyright laws.
I found this in a Google search:

"It is not legal to make archival (backup) copies of DVDs encrypted with CSS in the United States, even for personal use. The DMCA specifically took the long-held right to do this away from Americans when it was enacted."

If you have the time and money to be the test case for this, please post your contact information along with the specific titles you've ripped. I'm sure you'd be contacted, and you'd certainly have my appreciation for getting this resolved once and for all.
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Perhaps the best thing about the DMCA in this case is that it is unenforceable. There will always be decrypting software available, and no reasonable organization is going to go after a customer who actually purchased their product and merely wants to make an archival copy or transcode it to play on other devices.

It *should* be very clear that I should have the right to encode my DVDs for playback on my iPhone and Apple TV. The sooner content providers recognize this, the better. They have to let go of their childish notion that they can control every aspect of their products. It has already been demonstrated (time and time again) that they can't.

EDIT: Originally posted on my iPhone, so spelling corrections were required.
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Re: "RipIt", a Mac the Ripper alternative

said by WALL_E See Profile :

Perhaps the best thing about the DMCA in this case is that it is unenforceable. There will always be decrypting software available, and no reasonable organization is going to to after a customer who actually purchased there product and merely wants to make an archival copy or transcode it to play on other devices.
I'm guessing you haven't been paying attention the last few years...
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