battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to Dogfather
Re: Idiots...
If they don't like it they can always go across the street to Burger King. (DirectTv/DishNetwork) |
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kontos
xyzzy
join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY
| said by battleop  :If they don't like it they can always go across the street to Burger King. (DirectTv/DishNetwork) Except that the sesame seeds don't stick to the Satellite buns, either.  |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | It sucks but you can't have everything. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to battleop
That isn't the issue here. The FCC says you have to make buns so that competitors seeds stick. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| I could care less about Tivo users.. I'm tired of a few people holding up progress for the majority. That's the end of my discussion on that.
However, YOU of all people Ske, should have picked up on the fact that the FCC fined the cable company for not "properly informing the franchise of the change"..
Why in the hell should the FCC collect money because they failed to do something with the franchise? Why didn't the franchise fine TWC? And, who got the money? The FCC! Why didn't the FCC give that money to the F/A after fining?
There's a lot to go around here for finger pointing (which is the spirit of BBR these days).. but the bottom line is that eve on the basis on the actions of the FCC, your own water won't stay in the bucket on this one. The fine was for not "properly informing the franchise of the change"... not that they did it and it wasn't allowed.
And, to your post.. the FCC doesn't say you have to make buns so the competitors seeds stick, necessarily, it says you have to be truthful in how you are modifying the bun. In your logic, the FCC is saying that once a device is supported, it's always supported which has NEVER been the case anywhere. TWC is certainly allowed to flick off the Tivo users from the bun, so long as they make sure they know in advance. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·Teliax VOIP
| said by fiberguy :I could care less about Tivo users.. I'm tired of a few people holding up progress for the majority. That's the end of my discussion on that. After reading your rant below, I shouldn't have been surprised that you wrote this. Maybe you should read the linked findings before spouting off about that which you do not know.
The FCC's problem isn't SDV, the problem is moving existing linear channels to SDV and continuing to charge UDCP users for them and failing to include the correct PSIP data for those now MIA channels.
My problem is the companies making the rules such that competitive hardware makers can't make the sort of boxes the cable companies provide. They're forbidden from making a box that works with SDV and has their own interface? What's up with that?
Are you also against being able to choose which phone you use with your POTS line? (or your cable company provided telephone service)
Should you have to lease your computer from your ISP if you want to get on the Internet?
Your position makes no sense except as someone who either has a vested interest in selling cable companies SDV equipment or someone who works for one.
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It's wierdo, not weirdo. Yes, I know that's not the 'proper' spelling of the similar english language word.  |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | What else would you expect from the resident cable industry spokeshole? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
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Wow.. so I disagree I am invested in the company or industry.. real good come back.. is that all you have?
Now, before you come here, wierdo, and tell me I know nothing of what I speak of.. the last time I checked, and it was posted here, SDV side cars, dongles, adapters, etc. are in the works of being developed and being brought to market FOR Tivo users so they can continue using their boxes with SDV.
Anything else I can correct you on today? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
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said by Dogfather :What else would you expect from the resident cable industry spokeshole? Watch your mouth.
Maybe I should, for fun, launch a law suit against BBR for them allowing you to personally insult and attack me all while they don't enforce their own TOS rules property, yet selectively when it makes their position better.
But anyway, coming back to reality even thought you're not there.. I'm not going to speak to a child who is always here on a rant throwing a temper tantrum.
Did someone take away your tinker toys & stomp them into little pieces today Mr. Communist? |
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DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs:
3 edits | said by fiberguy :said by Dogfather :What else would you expect from the resident cable industry spokeshole? Watch your mouth. Maybe I should, for fun, launch a law suit against BBR for them allowing you to personally insult and attack me all while they don't enforce their own TOS rules property, yet selectively when it makes their position better. But anyway, coming back to reality even thought you're not there.. I'm not going to speak to a child who is always here on a rant throwing a temper tantrum. Did someone take away your tinker toys & stomp them into little pieces today Mr. Communist? This is the 3rd time I have seen you crying about BBR's TOS. Instead of launching a lawsuit against BBR, which is not funny at all, why don't you move to another site?
Oh, and for the love of god are all your paragraphs one sentence? |
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jmr50
join:2000-05-14
Chantilly, VA
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What about my TV? I paid for it, and it has big digital cable ready sticker on it, and now it can't receive a third of the HD channels. Consumers have paid thousands of dollars for equipment which now can't be used as advertised (i.e., without a set-top box). The law which required separable security which didn't require it for just a few channels, it required it for all linear channels. I'm not sure why the law requires it for HDNet but doesn't require it for SciFiHD... and I don't care what they do to make TiVo users happy, it still does nothing for the millions of CableCard-enabled TVs out there. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Teliax VOIP
| said by jmr50 :it still does nothing for the millions of CableCard-enabled TVs out there. There actually are very few cablecard enabled TVs being used with cards, sadly. The vast majority of them that aren't in MSO owned boxes are in TiVos, by something like a 10 to 1 margin.
That doesn't mean I disagree with your point or think that the tuning resolver is a real solution.
And as a side note, a large part of the reason for that low penetration is the cable companies themselves, leaving out SDV entirely. They misinform customers, many require a truck roll to have them installed, and they have such poor training on them that even when they send out an employee to do the install, it still often either doesn't work or takes hours for them to make it work.
It's really quite ridiculous.
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It's wierdo, not weirdo. Yes, I know that's not the 'proper' spelling of the similar english language word. |
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rv65
Drink Dublin Dr Pepper to your health
Premium
join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA | reply to jmr50
Most CableCard TV's don't have a USB port so they can't use the tuning resolver. Plus the TV manufacturer would have to make a firmware update. The tuning resolver is free and is much smaller than a cable box. |
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