bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY | reply to NetAdmin
Re: Idiots...
How is that anti-competitive? Burger King can do the same thing if they wanted too. |
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NetAdmin
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| said by bufbandit  :How is that anti-competitive? Burger King can do the same thing if they wanted too. Please how anything Burger King can legally do is anything remotely like preventing people from using devices they legally purchased?
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY
| I purchased a bluetooth device 2 years ago for my pc. I have upgraded to Vista. The device does not work now and the company will not supply drivers for Vista. Sure I am upset. But I understand that technology advances and sometimes older technology wont work with new technology. Im not going to throw a big hissy fit about. Ill simply get something thats compatible. End of story. Lets just keep old tech out there. if we did this, wed still be using crank phones. |
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ccbadd
join:2005-07-03
Corpus Christi, TX
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said by bufbandit :How is that anti-competitive? Burger King can do the same thing if they wanted too. Most cable companies have a virtual monopoly. Luckily I have two providers so there is real competition. There is no Burger King to go against there McDees. In this case, your arguments have no basis. |
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY | Virtual monopoly? That makes no sense. Direct TV, FIOS, Dish networks all seem like legit competition to TWC. Not sure what you mean by a virtual monopoly is. |
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NetAdmin
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1 edit | reply to bufbandit
said by bufbandit :I purchased a bluetooth device 2 years ago for my pc. I have upgraded to Vista. The device does not work now and the company will not supply drivers for Vista. Sure I am upset. But I understand that technology advances and sometimes older technology wont work with new technology. Im not going to throw a big hissy fit about. Ill simply get something thats compatible. End of story. Lets just keep old tech out there. if we did this, wed still be using crank phones. That is not even CLOSE to what happened here.
What happened here is that two cable operators started making changes over to SDV before it was fully tested with the cablecards that were issued by both operators to work with SDV. If the cable company is handing out cablecards to their subscribers for the subscribers' televisions or Tivos, the customers have every right to expect them to work.
As for liken "cablecards" to old technology or to liken this news item to your BT headset experience is to miss the issue entirely.
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY
1 edit | So TWC has the tech avail. TWC should wait 9 years for cablelabs to come up with a 2-way cablecard. By then another technology will be out. So I shoudl wait 9 years to upgrade to Vista? By then there will be 2 new OS's out. |
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI
1 edit | CableCards are all two way capable and have been since day one. The issue with two way has always been about the host device capabilities, NOT the cablecard. |
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Dogfather
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They should follow the rules laid down by the FCC. If they don't like the rules, they are free to get out of the business. There are plenty of gov't rules I'd like to not have to follow in my business, but I also have the choice of take it or leave it. |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to bufbandit
This isn't about a video monopoly, this is about hardware and cable operators abusing their market position to fleece customers with horrid overpriced hardware rentals. |
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY | reply to NetAdmin
So again, your basically saying the cable company's should wait to roll out a new technology that will improve service for 95 percent of their customers? That makes alot of sense. Obviously you dont know how to run a business. |
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Dogfather
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4 edits | Yep. They shouldn't be able to abuse their market position by rolling out so-called "technology" that breaks competing products in violation of FCC rules.
Wahhhhh, we're not allowed to break our competitors devices, wahhhhhhhh.
This technology doesn't "improve" the service for 95% of anyone.
You obviously don't know how to run a business that follows gov't regulations. You would prefer the Exxon-Microsoft model of abuse of market position to put customers over a barrel and gouge them at every turn. Unlike you, I actually do run a business and unlike Time Warner, I follow gov't regulations.
The FCC fines should have been $100M or at least a year's margin from these rule violating franchises and teach these companies a lesson that rule breaking will not be tolerated. TWC knew what the rules are and broke them anyway. I certainly wouldn't get such a wrist slap if I broke regulations that govern my business. |
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY | reply to magnushsi
Exactly, so the FCC should be fining Tivo not TWC. |
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY
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My buddy bought a direct TV DVR for $300. If it breaks he needs to pay for a new one. If he terms the service he needs to give the box back. That sounds like a steal. Buy a box and have to give it back or pay to have it replaced. Who is ripping who off? |
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Dogfather
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| Yeah, and you're buddy doesn't have to fork over $200/yr for each shitty DVR either. I pay for DirecTV's inside maintenance plan, they warrant ALL equipment and I still save $20/mo on the two two-tuner MPEG4 HD DVR's that I have. Plus I get 130 HD channels, VOD and superior service. Meanwhile if I had an inside wiring problem with TWC or Verizon, I get slammed big bucks for the truck roll. |
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY
1 edit | Wow $200 a year for a shitty DVR. The lease fees are usually $5-$7 a month. I guess your math skills are not that sharp. Last I checked TWC does not charge for truck rolls. Verizon does but TWC does not. |
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mech1164
I'Ll Be Back
join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ
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said by bufbandit :Virtual monopoly? That makes no sense. Direct TV, FIOS, Dish networks all seem like legit competition to TWC. Not sure what you mean by a virtual monopoly is. I well I'm one without a choice. I'm stuck with cablevision. Fios is available but not in my development. There are no apt installs yet or planned for in the next few years. Dish or Dtv is forbidden on the development. And before you all start qouting regulations we do not have any place to attach a dish. So for the foreseeable future I'm at the mercy of CV. |
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pcken98
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I have to pay 19 for each DVR with Cox cable, that's 228 - maybe you need to open your MIND before opening your MOUTH. |
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bufbandit
join:2002-03-25
Buffalo, NY
1 edit | Im speaking about TWC not Cox. Cant speak for a company I have not dealt with directly, sorry. You can always buy a $10 VCR. Lots of other options out there. |
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Dogfather
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2 edits | reply to bufbandit
DVR lease fee doesn't include the DVR service which is another $10 for a total of $16/mo X 12 months. When I had TWC before DirecTV I paid $6.95 per box for rental plus $10 PER BOX in DVR "service" fees. Each DVR was $17/mo total with TWC and if an issue wasn't an outside problem TWC did charge for truck rolls.
It looks like you are the one needing a math refresher. |
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