Re: So long, see ya later, bye! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21279294 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:50:53 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:50:53 EDT Re: So long, see ya later, bye! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21281426 KrK :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push.
My Theory is interference from BPL was a threat to White-Space spectrum :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21281426 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:40:43 EDT Re: So long, see ya later, bye! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21279294 N3OGH : hiphip HOORAY!

hiphip HOORAY!

hiphip HOORAY!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21279294 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:15:00 EDT Re: So long, see ya later, bye! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21278686 nasadude :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The FCC White Space report just released lists all kinds of interference issues. It is just that the backers of white space devices have co-opted Martin to ignore the problems. So, it is no different than the BPL problems. It is just that the backers of White Space devices have more political clout with the FCC than the electric companies pushing BPL had.
The electric companies NEVER pushed BPL. Most of them didn't want to have anything to do with broadband and were only interested in the "reading the meters remotely" aspect. The few that did get involved did so reluctantly and don't seem bothered at all that BPL never went anywhere.

BPL got a BIG push under Powell and Martin kept the ball rolling.

as far as political clout, it's pretty amusing that you believe NAB and ATT are lacking in that area.

I haven't read the report, but if there are "all kinds of interference issues", then why is Martin saying this will get approved? Maybe he doesn't like NAB because of the indecency stuff, although he is pretty much on board with allowing companies to own as many radio and tv stations as they want.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21278686 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:31:00 EDT Re: So long, see ya later, bye! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21278385 TKJunkMail :
said by nasadude See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push.
initial FIELD trials of prototype equipment seemed to show interference but in reality was the result of faulty FIELD TEST equipment. subsequent re-test shows the equipment works and it looks like the FCC will approve.
The FCC White Space report just released lists all kinds of interference issues. It is just that the backers of white space devices have co-opted Martin to ignore the problems. So, it is no different than the BPL problems. It is just that the backers of White Space devices have more political clout with the FCC than the electric companies pushing BPL had.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push.
well, BPL was always a construct of the FCC to fool congress into thinking there was competition. now that it's impossible to deny broadband in the U.S. is anything but competitive and even congress can't be fooled about it BPL has died. the interference was real and well documented in ACTUAL FIELD MEASUREMENTS OF A DEPLOYED SYSTEM.

on the other hand, whites spaces utilization is pushed by consumer friendly companies that want to provide another broadband option and bring REAL competition. NAB and incumbents are screaming about POTENTIAL interference and insisting white space utilization be shut down. initial FIELD trials of prototype equipment seemed to show interference but in reality was the result of faulty FIELD TEST equipment. subsequent re-test shows the equipment works and it looks like the FCC will approve. the only thing I don't understand is why Martin isn't killing this.

in fewer words:

BPL: fake, hyped solution; consumers against, business for

white spaces: real solution, consumers for, business (incumbents and NAB) against]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21278346 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:21:09 EDT Re: So long, see ya later, bye! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21277965 en102 : I like the 'home' version of BPL - HomePlug works VERY well.
I prefer it to WiFi G for latency, stability and range.
I've been using HDX101 for over a year with very few issues.
The only time there's an issue - its when someone is running the hair dryer or vacuum on the same circuit (high load).
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said by DrStrange See Profile :

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Given the potential for interference to MF and HF radio, this technology should never have seen the light of day in its present form.
Well the FCC hasn't learned its lesson yet. They pushed BPL despite all the interference complaints and now they are doing the same with the unlicensed white space device push.
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