anony101
@comcast.net
| reply to nitzan
Re: Excellent!!
Keep in mind however that the only ones who can "listen in" on your calls are your ISP, our ISP, and the phone companies on the way. None of which are going to bother filtering through millions of minutes of call time. That's not accurate. Cable customers can listen in to unencrypted VOIP calls within the same node they're in which means their neighborhood. |
|
knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| said by anony101 :Keep in mind however that the only ones who can "listen in" on your calls are your ISP, our ISP, and the phone companies on the way. None of which are going to bother filtering through millions of minutes of call time. That's not accurate. Cable customers can listen in to unencrypted VOIP calls within the same node they're in which means their neighborhood. Does that mean all Cable calls are unencrypted by default? How would a customer turn on encryption?
--
Fight NebuAD and the like:
Click Here to pollute their data |
|
nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
| reply to anony101
said by anony101 :Keep in mind however that the only ones who can "listen in" on your calls are your ISP, our ISP, and the phone companies on the way. None of which are going to bother filtering through millions of minutes of call time. That's not accurate. Cable customers can listen in to unencrypted VOIP calls within the same node they're in which means their neighborhood. I could be wrong, but AFAIK your neighbors CANNOT sniff your packets. Unless they have access to the switch - which they don't - they cannot listen in on you. |
|
GOLFnSUN
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
1 edit | said by nitzan  :said by anony101 :Keep in mind however that the only ones who can "listen in" on your calls are your ISP, our ISP, and the phone companies on the way. None of which are going to bother filtering through millions of minutes of call time. That's not accurate. Cable customers can listen in to unencrypted VOIP calls within the same node they're in which means their neighborhood. I could be wrong, but AFAIK your neighbors CANNOT sniff your packets. Unless they have access to the switch - which they don't - they cannot listen in on you. You couldn't do it on the PC side of the cable modem. But if you hook up a device directly to the cable and bypass the cable modem altogether with a sniffer device, you could see and capture the packets on your local node.
--
My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? |
|
nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27 | Interesting. Didn't know that.
So essentially, cable internet is inherently less secure than, say, DSL? or better yet - FTTH? |
|
Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA
| reply to anony101
said by anony101 :Keep in mind however that the only ones who can "listen in" on your calls are your ISP, our ISP, and the phone companies on the way. None of which are going to bother filtering through millions of minutes of call time. That's not accurate. Cable customers can listen in to unencrypted VOIP calls within the same node they're in which means their neighborhood. False. Look up BPI+.
--
Do you care about network neutrality, the right to privacy, or patent system abuse? Obama used to. |
|
pfak
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Canada
·Shaw
 ·Novus Entertainmen..
| reply to GOLFnSUN
said by GOLFnSUN :You couldn't do it on the PC side of the cable modem. But if you hook up a device directly to the cable and bypass the cable modem altogether with a sniffer device, you could see and capture the packets on your local node. Look up BPI+.
Sometimes I really wish DSLR had a moderation system like Slashdot so all your posts would be "-1" 
--
Xenophase - British Columbia's premier online gaming community. |
|
GOLFnSUN
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| There is no protection against tampering with the signals on the RF cable network.
The main advantages of BPI+ in DOCSIS 1.1 is the capability to upgrade crypto mechanisms in already deployed Cable Modems and the use of digital certificates to authenticate Cable Modems.
Notice also that all setup and configuration of the BPI functions are made at the CMTS, so as a user you have very little control over when your data are encrypted and when they are not. In reality the purpose of BPI and BPI+ is this
* To protect against theft of service
--
My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? |
|
Cthen
join:2004-08-01
Ypsilanti, MI
·Comcast
| reply to nitzan
said by nitzan :Interesting. Didn't know that. So essentially, cable internet is inherently less secure than, say, DSL? or better yet - FTTH? Since when has the internet ever been secure on any ISP? Just because some connections go through the CO first doesn't mean some one can't tap into it along the way.  |
|
anony101
@comcast.net
| reply to nitzan
I could be wrong, but AFAIK your neighbors CANNOT sniff your packets. Unless they have access to the switch - which they don't - they cannot listen in on you.
You ARE wrong.
Why don't you do some READING on the subject. That will save you from posting misinformation which some here will assume is correct. |
|
anony101
@comcast.net
 from:
GOLFnSUN
| reply to Cabal
False. Look up BPI+.
I've seen it done. All it takes is a trip to RadioShack. |
|
