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[ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

I'm looking for technical input from Cox HSI users about any current behaviors or changes you've noticed when using common P2P tools on Cox.

Please reply to this Topic (preferred) otherwise send email to me at robb@funchords.com -- thanks!!

Robb
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gravesg

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Norfolk, VA

Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

man i've been killing the p2p since the speed upgrade and honestly ...wait lemme tell you what i leeched ... 40GB Blu-ray iron-man 1080P and yes it looked stunning on my samsung, man i love my sammy.

it took a long while to snag 40Gb but it went full blast the whole way thru.

i will say this, im on a private torrent site, they use seedbox's so im not connected to 300 peers .. its more like 9 seedboxes 5 of em im not even getting parts from.

so it might look as if its a regular ...well a long download ...big game demo here Lol. i got over my cap every month without a peep, and i see no deep packet inspection going on. I LOVE THESE GUYS. ...not to mention fios is on the way .. so i doubt they would say a word, if they want my money still.

DrThodt_

@cox.net
LOL LOOK AT ME I ADMITTED TO THEF ...

DrThodt_

@cox.net

Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

+t to boot...

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Because you didn't reply properly, you just accused me of "THEF+t". You probably were replying to this message.

To reply to someone specifically, use the button that appears in the box containing the message you are replying to. The big buttons on the top and bottom of the page are to reply to the Original Poster (which is me).

As for discussing theft, that is an interesting subject but it is off-topic to this discussion. Please stay on-topic.
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funchords
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Thanks for the report. Are you able to upload at your desired speed? (And what speeds do you have your upload set at?)

Fubar

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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

said by funchords See Profile :

Thanks for the report. Are you able to upload at your desired speed? (And what speeds do you have your upload set at?)
Pot calling kettle black?

You clicked wrong reply to.......

funchords
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

Good grief!! Sorry about that!

dvd536
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Well before shaping came to this area I could pull around 2MB/s, now that tops out around 700KB/s.
uploads: when i am *able* to upload, its around 12KB/s TOTAL[most peers just connect and get RST'd]
I can upload camera footage to my FTP server though at my cap.
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

said by dvd536 See Profile :

when i am *able* to upload, its around 12KB/s TOTAL[most peers just connect and get RST'd]

Can you please test again by seeding some file?
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

said by funchords See Profile :

said by dvd536 See Profile :

when i am *able* to upload, its around 12KB/s TOTAL[most peers just connect and get RST'd]

Can you please test again by seeding some file?
next time i use BT, i'll check it. I don't use it everyday.
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Fubar

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Click for full size
Here is what I seed at:

I am on preferred 768k up

funchords
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

Thanks. For the past several months, were you always able to sustain those speeds?

Fubar

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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

Don;t really remember, But as far as I know.... Yes...
robl27
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

the one's who are the thief's are the RIAA and MPAA.
I haven't noticed any speed reduction down here.

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said by funchords See Profile :

I'm looking for technical input from Cox HSI users about any current behaviors or changes you've noticed when using common P2P tools on Cox.

Please reply to this Topic (preferred) otherwise send email to me at robb@funchords.com -- thanks!!

All,

Thanks for the inputs so far. More is welcome.

Robb
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dvd536
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Average speed down - 205KB/s
Average speed up 60.2KB/s (i have upload capped at 92KB/s)
file had 6500 peers(seeders/leeches)
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PhunGuy

@cox.net

Well its happening, I have been a p2p user for awhile.. I own thousands of DVD's and I go to the movies often. However there are some shows I want on the PC for traveling or other things so I just download them. Well COCKS shut my service off this morning because HBO complained I was sharing Entourage from my IP. The file finished at 2:45 am and I shut down my app at 7:00 am. They told me they have a 3 strike rule and they won't turn service back on.

So watch it if you are using p2p apps..

CoxTOC1

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Newport News, VA

Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

I think some further explanation is necessary here...

If you are actually to the point where we will not turn your service back on then we have suspended your services a few times already. In fact the last time we would have talked you would have had to call the Corp. Office and talked to the Corp. Abuse team. They would have explained in depth what was happening and asked you several times if you had any questions about what was going on. Once all that was done they would have asked you to acknowledge that if we received any more complaints that we would terminate your HSI account.

So rely if you were actually terminated after all that well...

Now if you feel that you termination was unjustified or that you were not properly warned about the consequences of copyright infringement then drop me a line and I'll happily research it.

funchords
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

Does Cox have a "3 Strikes Rule"?

CoxTOC1

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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

Yes, but it applies to all abuse not just copyright. Those strikes also fall off over time (And it varies by abuse type as well), if you have a cox.net e-mail address we'll e-mail you a whole bunch of warnings before we start suspending/"striking" you. We rely don't want to turn your services off (It's a pain for everyone involved) and we sure don't want to terminate your service (Hence the very lengthly call to Atlanta and the acknowledgment of further complaints resulting in termination).

My suggestion would be to make sure you have a cox.net e-mail set up (If you don't simply call into your local call center's tech support and they can get it set up for you.) and then log into the webmail system and set up a forwarder to forward any e-mail's from abuse@cox.net to wherever you would like (If you run into any problems setting up a forwarder you local tech support should be able to assist you with that as well). It's much more pleasant to get a e-mail warning than to have your services interrupted!


CoxTech1
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The issue here is not the use of P2P software but rather the content that is distributed. Items 3 and 7 would apply in this situation:

»www.cox.com/policy

And yes, Cox does have a 3 strikes policy with regards to violations of the Acceptable Use Policy.

funchords
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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

Okay, thanks. If I've got it right, it's not a P2P or a bandwidth policy, it's based on complaints about the IP rights of the content.

CoxTOC1

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Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

said by funchords See Profile :

Okay, thanks. If I've got it right, it's not a P2P or a bandwidth policy, it's based on complaints about the IP rights of the content.
Correct!

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said by funchords See Profile :

Okay, thanks. If I've got it right, it's not a P2P or a bandwidth policy, it's based on complaints about the IP rights of the content.
Right. It is based on the frivolous requests that the RIAA and MPAA's mafia send out.

I got one saying I was hosting the "infringing site thepiratebay.org" in California, but thepiratebay.org is a website hosted in Sweden.

Hell I could send Cox a stack of DMCA notices if I had nothing better to do with my time.
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said by PhunGuy :

However there are some shows I want on the PC for traveling or other things so I just download them. Well COCKS Cox shut my service off this morning because HBO complained I was sharing Entourage from my IP...They told me they have a 3 strike rule and they won't turn service back on.

So watch it if you are using p2p apps..
The watching should be about copyrighted material. If you trade in MPAA/RIAA properties, you are asking for trouble. Simple as that. Don't use P2P for stuff you don't have the right to distribute, and you should be okay.
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yeahyeahyeah

@cox.net

Interesting....HBO sent Cox a email saying I was sharing their programs. Being that HBO doesnt have any decent programs and hasn't in 3 years, imho carnivale was the last decent show they had, it's clear the gunshot notices sent by different companies are working.

Lol...I even had to pretend to delete files for programs I've never even heard of..WTH is "Iron Jawed Angels"...sounds like porn to me but I should know since Cox claims I downloaded 4 episodes.

What a joke! And yes on the 3 strikes rules. Of course those strikes count if it's legit or not as well.

CoxTOC1

join:2007-05-15
Newport News, VA

Re: [ALL] P2P Uploading and Downloading on Cox HSI

You are always welcome to challenge those notices. The procedure for doing so is located at: »www.cox.com/policy/#pp_8

Some things to remember, you are responsible for all traffic that goes through your modem. With that in mind do you have a wireless router at your location? Have you secured your wireless router? Could it have been a friend that you had over who was using your internet connection? Have you scanned your PC for virus/trojans? IF memory serves me correctly their are a couple of virus/trojans out their that will turn you PC into a PTP seeded without your knowledge.
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said by yeahyeahyeah :

What a joke! And yes on the 3 strikes rules. Of course those strikes count if it's legit or not as well.
Just to add to CoxTOC1 See Profile's comment: When I visit my sister, who has a Comcast connection, I often bring my computer along, and download fansubbed anime. I don't trade in MPAA/RIAA properties, and have never received a DMCA notice (though rumor has it that AT&T does send them out on complaints from rights holders). I haven't heard her say she's ever gotten one, either. But the potential does exist, when she allows me to hook up to her LAN.
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