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Locutus65
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Re: FEMA ice

Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge.
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FEMA goal is too keep people who decided not to leave alive, why should they be wasting tax dollars on ice??

Perishable food should be the last thing on peoples mind. I just moved to Louisiana and Gustov was my first hurricane. When it came through here I stocked up on jugs I filled with water and nonperishable foods in case we had no electricity and my food went bad, then I left when they did the mandatory evacuation.
Do people in Texas not do the same thing?

Anyways its one thing to get your own ice. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice.
After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people.
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said by Locutus65 See Profile :

Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge.
And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well.
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September 16th, @09:17PM

said by GlobalMind See Profile :

said by Locutus65 See Profile :

Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge.
And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well.
Well that sucks since all the stupid people are hogging ice for their frozen foods.
Anyways if you had a serious need for a working freezer wouldn't you have bought a generator and plenty of gas before the hurricane?
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said by r81984 See Profile :

said by GlobalMind See Profile :

said by Locutus65 See Profile :

Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge.
And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well.
Well that sucks since all the stupid people are hogging ice for their frozen foods.
Anyways if you had a serious need for a working freezer wouldn't you have bought a generator and plenty of gas before the hurricane?
Well one would think so. But then again, that's really an entirely different discussion.
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said by r81984 See Profile :

said by GlobalMind See Profile :

said by Locutus65 See Profile :

Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge.
And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well.
Well that sucks since all the stupid people are hogging ice for their frozen foods.
Anyways if you had a serious need for a working freezer wouldn't you have bought a generator and plenty of gas before the hurricane?
We have no generator (yet) and are buying our own ice to keep one meal's worth of food cold until dinner time. We have to go out every day and shop for food, ice, and supplies for that day. It takes several hours to do this. We are eating whatever for breakfast and lunch is something we can easily grab while out for the day's supplies. I cook a dinner every evening from what we were able to buy that day.

How do you figure that people are trying to keep frozen foods? Personally, we are just trying to have cold water and one meal's worth of food.

ETA: All of our "frozen" foods are still sitting on the curb waiting for trash pick up. Due to the heat, we lost all of our refrigerated or frozen food.

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said by r81984 See Profile :

FEMA goal is too keep people who decided not to leave alive, why should they be wasting tax dollars on ice??

Perishable food should be the last thing on peoples mind. I just moved to Louisiana and Gustov was my first hurricane. When it came through here I stocked up on jugs I filled with water and nonperishable foods in case we had no electricity and my food went bad, then I left when they did the mandatory evacuation.
Do people in Texas not do the same thing?

Anyways its one thing to get your own ice. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice.
After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people.
A lot of this ice is for Houston, not a lot of damage just NO electricity. They were not told to evacuate because Houston has an elevation of 50 feet so no hurricane caused flooding so need to evacuate.


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I did not evacuate due to flooding. No one I know in my area left because of fears of flooding. They all left because they were scared about the high winds and knew the electricity would be knocked out for days.

The people who stayed were those with strong houses, supplies, generators, and lots of fuel.
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September 17th, @12:16AM

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. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice.
After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people.
We can waste billions on wars, why can't we supply some ice to help our own people? Dumb or not, they are human beings, and American's, you just don't abandon them because they may or may not have made the right decision.


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Wasting tax payer money? If supplying ice to Americans that stayed behind to help out those that couldn't leave is wasting tax payer money what would your solution be? My in-laws are cooking out and sharing their food with everyone that couldn't leave. All they want is a little ice. They don't want loaded debit cards or any other hand outs, just freaking ice. Would tax payer money be better spent rounding up everyone that could not have left and putting them up in a hotel and feed them for days or weeks? I bet that cost more than ice.

PS for those that care. They found ice thanks to you all. I couldn't find any dry ice to send so I ordered a smoked ham that is packed in dry ice and sent it two day mail. I also went to Amazon and ordered crank flash lights and a radios and sent them.

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said by r81984 See Profile :

FEMA goal is too keep people who decided not to leave alive, why should they be wasting tax dollars on ice??

Perishable food should be the last thing on peoples mind. I just moved to Louisiana and Gustov was my first hurricane. When it came through here I stocked up on jugs I filled with water and nonperishable foods in case we had no electricity and my food went bad, then I left when they did the mandatory evacuation.
Do people in Texas not do the same thing?

Anyways its one thing to get your own ice. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice.
After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people.
Please tell me you are joking. After being through 3 hurricanes, generators are usually in very limited stock before and after hurricanes. Certain medicines need to be kept cool, insulin for one. Some people can't afford a generator, and they won't power everything under the sun.

Don't be a fool.


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After Wilma I used up all the frozen stuff I could first (this was before I had a generator), cooking on the grill doing foil meals or whatever would work.

Of course the frozen packaged stuff can be pretty well written off many times if it requires a microwave to heat up.
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We can waste billions on wars, why can't we supply some ice to help our own people? Dumb or not, they are human beings, and American's, you just don't abandon them because they may or may not have made the right decision.
Sorry, we spent all that money helping the good citizens of other countries.


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said by JoeG4 See Profile :

said by RR Conductor See Profile :

We can waste billions on wars, why can't we supply some ice to help our own people? Dumb or not, they are human beings, and American's, you just don't abandon them because they may or may not have made the right decision.
Sorry, we spent all that money helping the good citizens of other countries.
Ain't that the truth!
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why don't you get a life and live through a hurricane with children and no electricity. I prepared. Filled my gas tanks up, filled extra gas tanks up. I had a generator and plenty of food and water. What do you do when none of the gas stations have electricity and can't pump more gas for your generator-- YOU GET ICE.
And as far as FEMA being there to rescue those who need it, HELLO those are the ones that are wasting tax payer money by refusing to evacuate.
I had 9 people and 5 dogs in my house during the hurricane. Happy for it too. Both families that evacuated to my house lost EVERYTHING- house and contents.
By the way, FEMA refuses to help them because they pay for insurance. They are homeless, jobs were destroyed and now jobless--- insurance adjusters can take several weeks before they issue a single payment. Don't tell me about wasting taxpayers money on ice-
I pay my taxes.


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I am happy for your family... we cooked several meals for our neighbors because we had the only gas stove in our block. People are ignorant. I only hope that the people with their opinions don't have to live through a natural disaster. Things are getting back to normal but it has been a long week down here (In Pasadena)


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Taxpayers do not need to pay for your ice if your stupid enough to stock up on frozen food when a hurricane is on the way.
Why wouldn't you have stocked up on nonperishable food?

People who have never been through hurricanes get it, but those that live in hurricane areas do not.
This was my first and second hurricane.
My first thought when the hurricane left Cuba was "do I have enough water and nonperishable food?" My second thought was "where will I go if it comes this way?"

I know people who have lost their whole house to Ike due to a tree falling on their house, but they left before the Hurricane came through so they are not whining that they need ice.
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God Bless you for your generosity and assistance to people who have had their life as they knew it destroyed. I hope they find their way out of this nightmare soon. Your help and house are such a relief for them at this time I hope you can all get through this.

I will say that I have been amazed at the generosity of friends and neighbors through this. The people at my wife's work were actually seeing who could offer more for us to stay at their house. Our neighbors across the street who we have barely done more than wave at have provided us with 2 days of power that have kept us sane. This has been true of the entire block. Literally a whole string of extension cords from one side of the block to the others, the haves providing for us have nots.

Oh yeah we even had a friend go out of their way to find us and deliver a great cooler filled with ice. I was wondering what we were going to do with it but it provided us to have a few luxuries that we would not have thought to have ourselves. I am glad hat in a pinch there are those that are charitable enough to provide relief to others.


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Its not about nonperishable food its a small, cheap comfort for people who have to go with out power for weeks and possibly lost their house. If you don't want it fine but don't come on our forum and troll about it, you show a lot of class doing that.
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Last time I checked people did not need ice to live.
Ice is not going to help anyone.
Water and nonperishable food is what is going to keep people alive.
The jerks who go to FEMA for ice show no class at all.
If you want the luxury of ice in a distaster area, then get it yourself. Do not rely on the government.
If I was without food and water and FEMA was passing out ice I would be really pissed that they are wasting trucks hauling ice when the trucks should be filled with food and jugs of water.

I am not trolling, I am just responding to attacks from others. If people stop attacking I will stop responding.
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