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Re: FEMA ice
I am new to hurricanes and I evacuated for Gustov, but what do people need ice for?
It just seems like a waste of money for FEMA to be shipping ice when they should just be shipping nonperishable food and water.
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clubs: | Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge.
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| FEMA goal is too keep people who decided not to leave alive, why should they be wasting tax dollars on ice??
Perishable food should be the last thing on peoples mind. I just moved to Louisiana and Gustov was my first hurricane. When it came through here I stocked up on jugs I filled with water and nonperishable foods in case we had no electricity and my food went bad, then I left when they did the mandatory evacuation.
Do people in Texas not do the same thing?
Anyways its one thing to get your own ice. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice.
After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people.
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said by Locutus65  :Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge. And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well.
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| said by GlobalMind :said by Locutus65 :Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge. And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well. Well that sucks since all the stupid people are hogging ice for their frozen foods.
Anyways if you had a serious need for a working freezer wouldn't you have bought a generator and plenty of gas before the hurricane?
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| said by r81984 :said by GlobalMind :said by Locutus65 :Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge. And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well. Well that sucks since all the stupid people are hogging ice for their frozen foods. Anyways if you had a serious need for a working freezer wouldn't you have bought a generator and plenty of gas before the hurricane? Well one would think so. But then again, that's really an entirely different discussion.
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said by r81984 :said by GlobalMind :said by Locutus65 :Ice is needed for people to keep the perishable food we already had cold. No electricity = no freezer or fridge. And certain medicines need to be in the cold as well. Well that sucks since all the stupid people are hogging ice for their frozen foods. Anyways if you had a serious need for a working freezer wouldn't you have bought a generator and plenty of gas before the hurricane? We have no generator (yet) and are buying our own ice to keep one meal's worth of food cold until dinner time. We have to go out every day and shop for food, ice, and supplies for that day. It takes several hours to do this. We are eating whatever for breakfast and lunch is something we can easily grab while out for the day's supplies. I cook a dinner every evening from what we were able to buy that day.
How do you figure that people are trying to keep frozen foods? Personally, we are just trying to have cold water and one meal's worth of food.
ETA: All of our "frozen" foods are still sitting on the curb waiting for trash pick up. Due to the heat, we lost all of our refrigerated or frozen food. |
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said by r81984 :FEMA goal is too keep people who decided not to leave alive, why should they be wasting tax dollars on ice?? Perishable food should be the last thing on peoples mind. I just moved to Louisiana and Gustov was my first hurricane. When it came through here I stocked up on jugs I filled with water and nonperishable foods in case we had no electricity and my food went bad, then I left when they did the mandatory evacuation. Do people in Texas not do the same thing? Anyways its one thing to get your own ice. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice. After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people. A lot of this ice is for Houston, not a lot of damage just NO electricity. They were not told to evacuate because Houston has an elevation of 50 feet so no hurricane caused flooding so need to evacuate. |
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| I did not evacuate due to flooding. No one I know in my area left because of fears of flooding. They all left because they were scared about the high winds and knew the electricity would be knocked out for days.
The people who stayed were those with strong houses, supplies, generators, and lots of fuel.
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said by r81984 :. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice. After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people. We can waste billions on wars, why can't we supply some ice to help our own people? Dumb or not, they are human beings, and American's, you just don't abandon them because they may or may not have made the right decision. |
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said by r81984 :I am new to hurricanes and I evacuated for Gustov, but what do people need ice for? It just seems like a waste of money for FEMA to be shipping ice when they should just be shipping nonperishable food and water. Medicine such as insulin, and any perishable food that survived. Not all places where flooded, or blown away, but still don't have power.
After Rita in 2005, my brother's home was undamaged, but had no power for 2 weeks. We stayed away for a week, and a half after the storm, but wanted to come back as soon as possible. Once the roads had been cleared, we came back, but had to get food from MRE distribution, and from the nearest town that had power, and groceries (40 miles). We had butane stove, and grill, so we bought some meat, and eggs to cook. Used ice from distributions to keep it. Luckily his power returned a few days later. However, my apt. suffered damage, and I lost everything except for the clothes I evacuated with, & my computer, which I had brought to his house the night before we evacuated. |
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Wasting tax payer money? If supplying ice to Americans that stayed behind to help out those that couldn't leave is wasting tax payer money what would your solution be? My in-laws are cooking out and sharing their food with everyone that couldn't leave. All they want is a little ice. They don't want loaded debit cards or any other hand outs, just freaking ice. Would tax payer money be better spent rounding up everyone that could not have left and putting them up in a hotel and feed them for days or weeks? I bet that cost more than ice.
PS for those that care. They found ice thanks to you all. I couldn't find any dry ice to send so I ordered a smoked ham that is packed in dry ice and sent it two day mail. I also went to Amazon and ordered crank flash lights and a radios and sent them.
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said by r81984 :I am new to hurricanes and I evacuated for Gustov, but what do people need ice for? It just seems like a waste of money for FEMA to be shipping ice when they should just be shipping nonperishable food and water. I'm from central Florida and lived through the 2004 hurricane season. Let me tell you that after a few days with no electricity, 90+ degrees heat with 80%+ humidity; a little ice goes a long way. Plus it's not like people are just looking for handouts...it's hard to find supplies after a few days. Even stores with generators have limited supplies and even if they can get deliveries, particularly of ice, there is little to go around.
Until you've been through such a situation you really don't have much room to talk. Have a little faith that FEMA has dealt with enough of these situations to understand what the basic necessities, in the days immediately following a disaster, truly are. |
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said by r81984 :FEMA goal is too keep people who decided not to leave alive, why should they be wasting tax dollars on ice?? Perishable food should be the last thing on peoples mind. I just moved to Louisiana and Gustov was my first hurricane. When it came through here I stocked up on jugs I filled with water and nonperishable foods in case we had no electricity and my food went bad, then I left when they did the mandatory evacuation. Do people in Texas not do the same thing? Anyways its one thing to get your own ice. It is another thing to waste taxpayer dollars on ice. After living through a hurricane, it is sad at how much tax dollars are wasted on stupid people. Please tell me you are joking. After being through 3 hurricanes, generators are usually in very limited stock before and after hurricanes. Certain medicines need to be kept cool, insulin for one. Some people can't afford a generator, and they won't power everything under the sun.
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After Wilma I used up all the frozen stuff I could first (this was before I had a generator), cooking on the grill doing foil meals or whatever would work.
Of course the frozen packaged stuff can be pretty well written off many times if it requires a microwave to heat up.
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said by r81984 :I am new to hurricanes and I evacuated for Gustov, but what do people need ice for? It just seems like a waste of money for FEMA to be shipping ice when they should just be shipping nonperishable food and water. I wondered the same thing for the first 24 hours or so. Why do people need so much ice. I woke up in the middle of a sweltering night on Sat., no AC and not even a cold drink for some relief. Besides for medical reasons ice is a bit of very cheap comfort when people are in a miserable situation. If it were 90+ for the past 4 days yeah a bit of ice is a very cheap way to help people get through their misery. We live in a zip code that reports only 8% power outage as of now, but I am in that 8%. Fortunately we do not have to wait in POD lines our grocery stores have ice and we buy about 3 bags every 2 days to keep a few things cold enough for some relief and bit of normalcy.
BTW, I am a taxpayer and would rather see the govt buy ice for people in a bad situation as opposed to some financial companies that made it possible for themselves and so many Americans to go in debt. $85,000,000,000 to AIG >> $1,000,000 of ice for many thousands of regular Americans.. |
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clubs: | Hi Flippant,
One thing I did after the hurricanes I went through was to get dry ice. The grocery store near me had it in stock, and it worked much better than regular ice. Just be cautious when you hande it. |
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| Yeah the Randall's close to our house has a dry ice bin. I just remembered buying it is kind of expensive although if it lasts for more than a day or two it may be worth it. If they have some we will try it. Although ice burns suck and I have a family that does not always remember these things... |
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| said by Flippant :Yeah the Randall's close to our house has a dry ice bin. I just remembered buying it is kind of expensive although if it lasts for more than a day or two it may be worth it. If they have some we will try it. Although ice burns suck and I have a family that does not always remember these things... Yeah it is a bit more expensive but to me it was worth it as it lasted longer. I used a bit of regular ice and some of the dry ice and it was good for 3-4 days. |
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said by RR Conductor :We can waste billions on wars, why can't we supply some ice to help our own people? Dumb or not, they are human beings, and American's, you just don't abandon them because they may or may not have made the right decision. Sorry, we spent all that money helping the good citizens of other countries.  |
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