  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth
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| [WotLK] Broken (OP) Holy Paladin Build (Current Beta)
Hey folks, tinkering around with the new beta talents. Here's what I discovered:
»wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sxAztM···bxbhzbbc
This build is the most overpowered build in the game. Look at the ret talent "Judgement of the Wise". Returns 20% of your max mana upon judging a target. Looking at end-game paladins carrying anywhere from 15k to 20k mana, you're looking at 4k mana (20k mana pool) every 8 seconds, giving you a 2500 mp5 constant for the duration of any fight, on top of your own passive regen.
Because of this, now you can cast max rank holy light spells, which are already given a massive crit bonus through ret and holy talents on top of itemized gear, looking at well over 40% crit rate in end-game naxx gear, I bet.
That is insanely overpowered if a holy paladin can spam max rank holy light for as long and as frequent as a current day flash of light spammer... at 40-50% crit rate on top of that.
I haven't really seen anyone else (I'm sure I can't be the only one) who discovered this. -- I melt faces. |
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  Jakiel00
join:2007-12-12 Mckinney, TX | I am at work and can't check it out, but as a Holy pally I just creamed my pants. |
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 Tehuno
join:2005-01-18 Bartlesville, OK | 2 words: potion sickness
with the ability to only use 1 pot during any fight, regen talents had to be made up to deal with it. you will probably end up with the same mana regen now, only you dont have to chug 2-3 mana pots every fight. |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth
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| Uh, take a second look at this build. The 33 points in ret is to get the 3-point talent "Judgement of the Wise", essentially equivelant to downing a pot every 8 seconds, not every 2 minutes. This is more than just "passive regen". This is like being a druid, with a fulltime innervate and being able to drink for an entire fight while casting.
It was meant to be a ret talent, where their max mana could be at 6-7k and 20% turns out to be 1200-1400 mana, which handles their mana issues. I don't think this was meant to be for holy. No matter how deep they make it, I'll pick it up. They're going to have to reword it differently, or make it based upon AP or something. |
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  DownLow Nope...I Got Nothing Premium join:2001-04-25 Long Island | reply to Archivis Nerf incoming! Never will the word OP be used with pallies (I am sorry to say that, especially because my main is a holy pally) -- Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult! |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth
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| Same. I enjoyed stacking haste, and getting damn near 1.5 holy lights (mostly enjoyed the 1.23 sec cast flash of lights), but in the xpac, if they stays as is, I'd be stacking sas tons of healing/crit and forego mp5 all together. That talent isn't just begging for a nerf, it's just boasting of being game breaking. |
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 Tehuno
join:2005-01-18 Bartlesville, OK | they changed jotw a while back, unless they changed it again.
Its supposed to be just like spriest VT, returns .5% of max mana every sec for 10 sec to the 10 lowest people on mana in the raid.
those might be outdated notes |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth | Yeah, it got changed. Ret paladins were mad that they lost their mana survivability when they changed it to that .5% thing. This new change hit like a day or two ago. |
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 Tehuno
join:2005-01-18 Bartlesville, OK
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| im wondering how it will work with spriest VT, like if you have both in a raid, will it return mana to 20 people, or just keep a constant refresh up on the 10 lowest.
as for being holy pallies in general, i dont think you will be disappointed with the beta.
I dueled a pally on my premade rogue, and he killed me in about 15 sec. i had to double check his spec because he was hitting so hard i thought he was ret. turns out he was holy, and it was the new holy shock hitting me so hard. 4k+ holy shock crits, 2-3k judgements and his flash of light crit me for over 10k after he smoked me and was healing me back up. |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth | Will let you know over the weekend. |
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