GOLFnSUN
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Avalon, NJ |  Now tell me again why we need to collect info we already ...
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So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources. |
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So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources.
The info the FCC is potentially no longer collecting focuses on network investment, customer satisfaction, and network reliability. Do you see any of those measurement criteria reflected in this report? Or are you simply building your eight millionth straw man this month? |
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Probably because all the major ISP's ignore anything that isnt paid for by them or from the FCC. And even then they argue that it isnt factual.
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GOLFnSUN
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said by Karl Bode  : quote:
So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources.
The info the FCC is potentially no longer collecting focuses on network investment, customer satisfaction, and network reliability. Do you see any of those measurement criteria reflected in this report? Or are you simply building your eight millionth straw man this month? I remember plenty of stories here decrying the fact that the FCC doesn't know who has broadband, what speeds they have, what percentage of users have broadband, etc. and that they need to require the ISP's to provide them that info. None of those demands had anything to do with satisfaction, money spent, reliability, etc.
Well it certainly appears that they could get all the broadband penetration and speed stats elsewhere.
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4 edits | I remember plenty of stories here decrying the fact that the FCC doesn't know who has broadband, what speeds they have, what percentage of users have broadband, etc. and that they need to require the ISP's to provide them that info. They don't collect accurate data, but they pretend to.Well it certainly appears that they could get all the broadband penetration and speed stats elsewhere. Akamai's data is hardly comprehensive and doesn't appear to actually map rural broadband coverage by zip code or any other "boots on the ground" metric, it simply bases all conclusions on traffic that hits their network. Were I a government agency tasked with making huge decisions that impact the telecom infrastructure of the nation, I'd probably want my own, objective, and far more detailed data, not data provided by the industry I'm supposed to be regulating. But that's just me. I'm not an industry investor who financially benefits from garbage data supporting the case for less infrastructure investment. |
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1 edit | said by Karl Bode : Were I a government agency tasked with making huge decisions that impact the telecom infrastructure of the nation, I'd probably want my own, objective, and far more detailed data, not data provided by the industry I'm supposed to be regulating. And how would data provided by the ISPs to the FCC not be data provided by the regulated industry? I would think data provide by Akamai and others would be MORE reliable.
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said by GOLFnSUN :... have. So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources. TK, TK, TK ... I think you are guilty of hand-picking your sources.
The funny thing is that both this source (Akamai) and the other source (the CWA) both have reasons to eye Telecom and CableCo management with suspicion.
That said, THANK YOU AKAMAI -- every little bit helps.
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Karl Bode
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Akamai is also in the industry. And, Yeah. The FCC (gasp) might actually want to go out into the field to see who has broadband before making massive decisions. |
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said by GOLFnSUN :So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources. It is because all of the data out there is junk. None of available data has been scientifically gathered, nor have proper methods been employed to ensure the quality and accuracy of the data.
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said by GOLFnSUN :... have. So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources. Because the FCC's data is supposed to be unbiased and neutral (ha), whereas data from Companies, Non-Profits, Think-Tanks, and/or Industry lobbyists could easily be.... well... "Manipulated" to support/suggest a certain agenda.
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Imagine if the Police brought in a suspect.
They ask "Did you do it.?" and the suspect says "Nope. I'm innocent!" and the police said "Whoops! Our bad! You're free to go, case closed!"
The regulators and enforcers aren't supposed to take the industries word for it...
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In addition, Akamai can only 'map' so to speak based on ip addresses, ip blocks, ISP regions, etc.. which becomes real broad at best and is no better than the FCC's own 'one broadband user per zip code equates to being fully wired' method. This thread interestingly comes to mind: »Why is my IP so far away?
Search around this very site and you'll find many people where their city has been wired for some sort of broadband but for one reason or another they are JUST enough distance to get squat without paying a few grand at the least to extend lines. Should they be pushed to the wayside in these studies just because ~60% of the ISP's footprint is covered and they didn't want to spend the relatively small capital to finish the job?
Akamai and the FCC's current test method are only going to see that x region has y amount of users on broadband connections and will count that as fully wired. But go investigate in person and find many broadband 'dead zones' scattered and all of a sudden the area's not as 'fully wired' as originally claimed.
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Pssssst.. they got it from the NSA.. It's just a bonus  |
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said by GOLFnSUN :... have. So why does the FCC need to collect all this broadband info, when it is abundantly clear that same info is already available from other sources. What a stupid question...
Perhaps because Akamai != internet access?
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