Ottawa Gal
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| NDP Charlie Anugus on the net issues
»www.p2pnet.net/story/16899
Figured this was a good place to toss this in since this forum is very active on the net issues:
The Canadian Net Neutrality issue
The copyright issue
Big corporations taking your net rights away.... to name a few.
In this article Charlie Angus addresses some key concerns many of you voiced here in this forum, and which our current government is keen on ignoring and is calling the online community a danger!
Jon over @ P2Pnet got in contact with the only political party to have a spokeman specifically to address digital issues, the many issues brought up in this very forum, by you.
Here, Digital Culture spokesman, Charlie Angus, lays it on the line in an exclusive p2pnet editorial.
Hope you enjoy it, its a decent read and shows at least one party is listening to you.
»www.p2pnet.net/story/16899 |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H2Z | *Sniff* *Sniff* Hmm. Smells like there's an election in the air.  |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| I've traditionally not been NDP (pretty much raised in a Liberal House), and being self employed have had what can only be described as a Blue tendency, but with everything that is now going on..... I'm very much confused as to how to vote should it happen soon!
Kinda wish we were able to vote on the individuals rather than the parties at this point (as discussed over the last year or so), specially with various people people jumping ships as they have.
The Values of Red, Blue, Green, etc are all extremely blurred these days... It seems more driven by group agendas to be in or stay in power rather than doing what the parties actually believe in.
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TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | im voting for anyone or any group who can fullfil bandwidth needs  |
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agreed
@videotron.ca
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said by R0CKY :I've traditionally not been NDP (pretty much raised in a Liberal House), As an english speaking Quebecer, born and raised liberal, I concur (what was the english speaking communities only option?). Never even thought NDP before this year.
But Being in QC, we all know how this prov will go regardless.
Yup, if only we could vote on the indivduals. |
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should Will
@videotron.net
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said by R0CKY :I'm very much confused as to how to vote should it happen soon! "should"
Just in:
OTTAWA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper will visit Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean early Sunday morning and ask her to dissolve the 39th Parliament, Canwest News Service has learned.
Canadians will vote Oct. 14, after the shortest campaign permitted by law.
»www.canada.com/montrealgazette/n···0a64baa6 |
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tertech
join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON
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said by R0CKY :I've traditionally not been NDP (pretty much raised in a Liberal House), and being self employed have had what can only be described as a Blue tendency, but with everything that is now going on..... I'm very much confused as to how to vote should it happen soon! You own a business Rocky, you are evil! You should only be allowed to recoup your investment and break-even on your expenses for the first 10 years of operation. Don't you realize there are people out there who are less fortunate than you? Why should you profit while they suffer? You should provide the Internet for free.
uh, huh, wah? Sorry, I was temporarily possessed by the NDP spirit. I'm OK now. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | NDP is where its at |
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lol at u
@videotron.net | reply to tertech
lol is that what the ndp is saying?
Maybe you should re-educate yourself or re-evalaute whatever brain wahsed you. |
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tertech
join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON
edit:
September 4th, @01:25PM
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lol is that what the ndp is saying?
Maybe you should re-educate yourself or re-evalaute whatever brain wahsed you.
The NDP is great - in opposition. We need folks like Charlie Angus to stand up in Parliament and make Minister Prentice look like the buffoon he is. I would even consider contributing to Mr Angus' campaign. Their platform however is geared to appeal more to the worker, tenant, or consumer than the employer, landlord, or company. Just read their web-site.
Hey, maybe if they form the government, we can have 'Rae Days' off. Hmmmmmm what could we call them? How about 'Jack-off days' ? |
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morisato
join:2008-03-16 | Hrmm.. That would be a bad name.. |
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picked up
@videotron.net | Geist's site picked up on it... just basically points to p2pnet |
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HoboJ
join:2008-03-27
Trenton, ON | reply to Ottawa Gal
Honestly at this point I'll only vote NDP if the NDP candidate in my area isn't a complete douchebag. Liberals haven't picked a candidate here and the conservative one... well self explanatory. |
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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said by agreed :
Yup, if only we could vote on the indivduals.
That's how it used to be. It didn't matter what party the person represented, you could trust their pre-election word as an individual, even if it meant that they went against party policy. How times have changed, eh? |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | reply to tertech
don't forget your lube =p |
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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said by tertech :Their platform however is geared to appeal more to the worker, tenant, or consumer than the employer, landlord, or company. Just read their web-site. The NDP has always been geared towards the average Joe/Jane Canadian, folks like you and me, that the Libs and PC's always seem to forget about in their agendas. Traditionally, they have always been there to defend the rights of the commom folk, against the "big-pockets", and they don't believe the rich should get richer, while the poor (in comparison), get poorer, carrying a large tax burden, while the MAJOR corporations get off easy in endless tax breaks. The NDP were the ones who instituted *social housing* back in the 70's and 80's, while the Libs and PC's turned a blind eye to the needs of all the people that lost their jobs and homes, during their rotating terms of administration. Bob Rae was a total f-up as a leader (still is), and for certain the NDP's never planned that they would actually get in at the time. The Lib's brought in the *temporary* GST (ya right), and the PC's if they were elected, would abolish it (ya right again). Nothing but a big freakin money grab to ensure pension funds would be plentiful for retiring MP's. Something is definitely wrong with this picture. |
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Bell_Abused
join:2006-10-07
·Bell Sympatico
| I suggest that those who are interested check the comment area of that p2pnet article for the post by Russell McOrmond (who runs both flora.ca and digitalcopyright.ca).
He is a big advocate of user rights that has been around for many years, and fighting for many years (as many of you will know).
In his post he has links to the NDP riding candidates that are also fighting the copyfight.
Worth a look for those interested. |
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Bell_Abused
join:2006-10-07
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to tertech
said by tertech :1. The NDP is great - in opposition. We need folks like Charlie Angus to stand up in Parliament and make Minister Prentice look like the buffoon he is. 2. I would even consider contributing to Mr Angus' campaign. Their platform however is geared to appeal more to the worker, tenant, or consumer than the employer, landlord, or company. Just read their web-site. Who would have thought a year ago that the TekSavvy forum on DSLr would be the forum of political rife and the forum that a concerned MP would be looking at (and word from a trusted source (k Ottawa gal, i let the beans out) tells me he is looking here).
I just had to say that.... :x (she will slap me later) on to your comments.
1. I agree. No one in this past year has stuck out like Charlie Angus for rights and fights. He put the CON's and the industry minister in the spot-light as buffons. He just plain rocks (in simple terms).
2. Yes, it is geared to the CANADIAN lay person. Layton (or whatever his name is) was on the news today, and ONE THING stuck out in my mind as a small business owner. He said he will cut all gov support for Canadian companies who out-sourse.
Companies like teksavvy would be able to compete and take advantage of R&D tax credits (mlppp implimentaion would fall under R&D). The likes of Ebox and and Acanac would be able to apply this as R&D.
Bell who out-sources will face consequences.
So basically what you said and ranted about in your two posts are just wrong.
I want to see companies like teksavvy who invest in canadian labour profit from it.
I DON'T want to see companies like bell cutting Canadian jobs and out-surcing to bangledesh profit from it.
Your view is narrow.
I say give them a chance.
What is a year in Canadian politics worth? Rights! Your rights that are being eroded. And Canadians profiting by being Canadian, unlikie the likes of those sending the jobs to instanbul (Bell).
Stick it to them for a year. Nothing to lose. |
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k6richar
join:2008-06-17
Kitchener, ON
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In my opinion NDP > Liberals > Conservatives.
However last election in my riding i think liberals got around 45% conservatives 35% NDP 15% green around 5%.(All numbers approximate)
If i vote for NDP they will still lose, so i have to vote for Liberals just to keep Conservatives out.
I know it is people like me keeping NDP from gaining ground, but i have posted my reasons. This is why i don't like our current election system. |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Re: NDP Charlie Angus on the net issues
Voting NDP can be extremely strategic.
If your riding will elect a liberal even if their candidate is a cockroach, voting NDP causes that liberal to win with a lesser margin and thus perhaps work a bit harder to keep the riding.
If voting NDP causes an NDP to win, then the NDP, as a party, will have more power in opposition and if they are lucky, would have blocking votes to prevent a minority government from going rogue.
If you are sure the NDP will not form the next government (which is a given), then voting NDP will ensure the NDP becomes a strong opposition along with the Bloc.
La Presse said that the Liberals are to be decimated in Québec (since they are without a leader).
Canadians east of Thunder Bay have two options: Vote for Reform and give them absolute majority, at which point, Bush/Cheney move up north to implement everything they want. Or vote NDP to deprive Reform of a majority, while having a strong opposition.
The Liberal party has had plenty of time to choose a leader. They have known they are unleectable since they have been supporting Reform all this time to avoid triggering an election.
And because they have supported Reform's plans, they are not a viable opposition and must not be given enough votes to matter. Democracy works when there is a viable opposition. |
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