 pianotechPianotechPremium
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Re: Bandwidth Limits - All discussion here said by bondo :said by pianotech:When you think about it, every other commodity or utility we buy is metered. Water, natural gas, oil, gasoline, electricity, cell phone minutes.... Why do we expect bandwidth to be different? oh yeah, that's a good comparison. I just love it when the phone, water, gas, electricity decide to shut off and ban me for a year for using too much of it any given month. I said METERED. METERED. As in, you pay for your usage. The electric company charges you more when you use more electricity and less when you use less. The water company charges you more when you use more electricity and less when you use less.
I'll ask you again: why should we expect bandwidth to be different?
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kudos:5 | said by pianotech:The water company charges you more when you use more {sic} electricity water and less when you use less. I don't know about your water company. But mine and all the others I know pay a minimum FEE no matter how much water you use. Even if you use none, you still pay a minimum amount.
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pianotechPianotechPremium
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| said by Linklist:said by pianotech:The water company charges you more when you use more {sic} electricity water and less when you use less. I don't know about your water company. But mine and all the others I know pay a minimum FEE no matter how much water you use. Even if you use none, you still pay a minimum amount. That goes without saying. But after that minimum fee, you pay based on your usage. |
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If they advertise that up front and then folks buy into it that is a different story. You pay a flat fee for internet service and should not have to pay more because you are on more or download more. Should those that don't get on much or don't download much get a rate cut? Its a slippery slope. By your logic, comparing it to gas, water etc....the less one uses it the less one should pay so when I stay off the internet most of a given month I expect my bill to reflect my lack of usage. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Yes... if Comcast HSI was metered, sure!
You pay a flat fee for average Residential service.
The average is(claimed) 2-3GB per month.
Seeing as they have set the bar rather high at 250GB, and from what I have read even that is a *soft* cap, using more than 250GB would be inadvisable.
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| said by dadkins:Yes... if Comcast HSI was metered, sure! You pay a flat fee for average Residential service. The average is(claimed) 2-3GB per month. Seeing as they have set the bar rather high at 250GB, and from what I have read even that is a *soft* cap, using more than 250GB would be inadvisable. It IS metered. If one passes a set limit (250 GB), the account is flagged for abuse. As we can see here at Webster's:
tr.v. me·tered, me·ter·ing, me·ters
1.To measure with a meter: meter a flow of water.
2.To supply in a measured or regulated amount: metered the allotted gasoline to each vehicle.
3.To imprint with postage or other revenue stamps by means of a postage meter or similar device: metering bulk mail.
4.To provide with a parking meter or parking meters: meter parking spaces.
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Dude! LOL!
Do you get charged like... water?
Electricity?
Gas?
As in, by the unit? No!
It is not a metered service.
If it were, my bill would be about $6.35 per month. 
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| said by dadkins:Dude! LOL! Do you get charged like... water? Electricity? Gas? As in, by the unit? No! It is not a metered service. If it were, my bill would be about $6.35 per month. I hope that the words "To supply in a measured or regulated amount" and the set limit of 250 GB make some sense with the definition.
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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kudos:18
2 edits | - Metered services (also called pay-per-use) is any type of payment structure in which a customer has access to potentially unlimited resources but only pays for what they actually use. Metered services are becoming increasingly common in enterprise information technology (IT) environments. With utility computing, for example, a company can purchase computing resources to match fluctuating needs. This approach is promoted as being more cost-effective for the company than maintaining a large infrastructure that exceeds the company's average computing power requirements.
Metered services are also gaining popularity in the consumer market. Some Internet service providers (ISPs) have begun to charge customers according to usage instead of charging a flat monthly subscription fee.
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said by dadkins:Dude! LOL! Do you get charged like... water? Electricity? Gas? As in, by the unit? No! It is not a metered service. If it were, my bill would be about $6.35 per month. No, it would not. CC would still charge the "base charge" of $42 or whatever they would call it and then charge you over limit. Same as some utility providers charging $whatever for a minimum of x gallons or whatever they sell and then charging by the unit over that limit.
There are variations of metered. Once there are numbers involved as usage, it IS metered, no matter how you would like it to describe it as not being in some Orwellian fashion.
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kudos:6 | reply to sturmvogel
If I called it a metered utility, I think we'd hear a cranial explosion from the general direction of Hercules, Calif.! 
Answer? Beats me. There's definitely a meter on it, but since you aren't charged extra and can't buy extra, and the 250 GB threshold is not a limit, I think there's an argument that it's not really a metered utility (er, um -- "service".
-- Robb the silly-tired airport-weary traveler
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| said by funchords:If I called it a metered utility, I think we'd hear a cranial explosion from the general direction of Hercules, Calif.! Answer? Beats me. There's definitely a meter on it, but since you aren't charged extra and can't buy extra, and the 250 GB threshold is not a limit, I think there's an argument that it's not really a metered utility (er, um -- "service". -- Robb the silly-tired airport-weary traveler One day when we meet, I will buy you a beer
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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kudos:18 | reply to funchords
Like I said, I couldn't care less either way.
Both y'all are wrong. 
I too would have to buy Robb a beer. 
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