JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
 ·Comcast
1 edit | reply to crese24
Re: When do I get the call or will I?
The business class limits are not spelled out in the TOS, only that "excessive use" will get you a request to move up to a higher speed.
There have been a few posts here where other folks have tossed around the numbers 750GB for 12/2 (starter, in docsis 3.0 land, crese24, so you'd be fine using 500GB/mo, you're 250GB under the limit) and 1.5TB for the next level up.
Edit: this is the first post where someone suggested the possible caps for business class: »Re: [Business] I signed up for comcast business
I've been a Business Starter sub for 7 months now, and my typical month is 150GB. I have some headroom  I'm not a business class user to get more, I need the statics and the right to run servers.
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S60
Premium
join:2008-01-12
Pittsburgh, PA
1 edit | reply to sortofageek
Is this the promised bandwidth meter?
I don't know if this is new or not, but I just noticed it on my account:
Is this the usage meter we've been waiting for? Since I switched to business it says I can't view it. |
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
1 edit | said by S60  :I don't know if this is new or not, but I just noticed it on my account: Is this the usage meter we've been waiting for? Since I switched to business it says I can't view it. Yes. But you should say it this way: it's the one we're "still waiting for"....
As it states, the usage meter doesn't apply to business accounts...
How about that.... 
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Ted Sheckler
join:2009-01-17
Aurora, CO
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WernerSchutz
join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX
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Re: Is this the promised bandwidth meter?
said by IPPlanMan :said by S60 :I don't know if this is new or not, but I just noticed it on my account: Is this the usage meter we've been waiting for? Since I switched to business it says I can't view it. Yes. But you should say it this way: it's the one we're "still waiting for".... As it states, the usage meter doesn't apply to business accounts... How about that.... Since I moved to business class, I did not check my usage that much. Why ? Because before I could work for weeks without having to reboot the modem, now I have to reboot the SMC gateway almost daily and sometimes my router using the Tomato FW just in case.
The issue seems to be the SMC, but I did not have time to troubleshoot it yet. |
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crese24
join:2007-12-27
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said by IPPlanMan :said by S60 :I don't know if this is new or not, but I just noticed it on my account: Is this the usage meter we've been waiting for? Since I switched to business it says I can't view it. Yes. But you should say it this way: it's the one we're "still waiting for".... As it states, the usage meter doesn't apply to business accounts... How about that.... Its great to be a business customer!! Please don't give them any ideas or they may just cap business too.  |
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Daveid
join:2007-06-12
Milpitas, CA
3 edits |  Comcast announces new bandwidth throttling scheme
»www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/comc···-scheme/
"if more than 70 percent of your max bandwidth (downstream or upstream) is used for more than 15 minutes"
"expect to find yourself down-throtted for at least 15 minutes, or until your average bandwidth utilisation rate drops below 50 per cent for 15 minutes."
Thread was locked, reposting here.
Source: »downloads.comcast.net/docs/Attac···ices.pdf
Page 9
Mod Note: The "new" bandwidth "throttling scheme" isn't new. Please see this BBR article ---> »Comcast Slammed For Non-Existent Throttling Changes
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM
·Comcast
1 edit | That is old news Daveid. Look at the first post of this thread. There are posts about it dating back to January maybe earlier. Maybe they just started implementing it, but there have been discussions about it before this.
Edit: OK I just read into a PDF and they don't actually throttle your speeds. They just delay them from getting to you asap. This will have no effect on gamers unless they are also downloading a huge file while they are playing.
Read this. »downloads.comcast.net/docs/Attac···ices.pdf |
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Daveid
join:2007-06-12
Milpitas, CA
1 edit | Even if that is the case, it's still false advertising on Comcast's behalf.
If they advertise a 22/5 plan, and I pay for a 22/5 plan, I expect a 22/5 plan.
This .pdf basically describes that I'm only allowed to use 15.4/3.5, and 22/5 is my "powerboost" for a few minutes.
Hence, they should either start selling lower speed tiers, or stop complaining that they can't deliver the speeds the advertise.
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naturecannon
join:2005-01-23
Portland, OR
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said by Drizew :they don't actually throttle your speeds. They just delay them from getting to you asap. This will have no effect on gamers unless they are also downloading a huge file while they are playing. LOL, whats the difference?
Delayed/ throttled, whatever you want to call it, you are not getting whats advertised.
If a service provider can't sustain full bandwidth for more than 15 minutes then they're not really giving me the rated bandwidth. They need to advertise speeds that they can give people 100% of the time. |
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM
·Comcast
| The difference is speed vs latency. If you are so bothered by the way you are being treated then you can always change providers. Here, I will even give you a list of providers that are OBVIOUSLY better then Comcast.
Hughesnet
Qwest -- it is fiber after all :/
Verizon Wireless -- MOBILE!
Sprint --- Check out the bandwidth allowance!
and my personal favorite... Netzero
I know you won't have trouble switching. Last time I checked Comcast didn't require you to sign a service contract. |
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM
·Comcast
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said by Daveid :If they advertise a 22/5 plan, and I pay for a 22/5 plan, I except expect a 22/5 plan. This .pdf basically describes that I'm only allowed to use 15.4/3.5, and 22/5 is my "powerboost" for a few minutes. The .pdf makes no mention of Powerboost. I guess you have trouble understanding complicated text like "...during those times when the network is already being overwhelmed." [/sarcasm]
Nobody forces you to use their products. However, if you choose to use them, then you must play by their rules. Grin and bear it. I know the rest of us are. |
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Daveid
join:2007-06-12
Milpitas, CA
1 edit | If you noticed, I put quotations around powerboost.
I was trying to emphasize the relation between their throttling plan and their feature, powerboost.
Powerboost as described by Comcast:
"PowerBoost is a patented-pending Comcast network technology that enables you to experience faster connection speeds while you are downloading and uploading large files to the Internet."
Thus, I was trying to make a connection that an advertised speed like 22/5 is actually a "power boost" as they only allow me to normally use 15.4/3.5.
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM
·Comcast
1 edit | How can you say that 22/5 is the advertised "powerboost" speed? Especially when you are provisioned @ 24.2/5.5. There have been people reporting speeds of up to 90Mb/s when "powerboost" is activated.
By the way, there is absolutely no relation between throttling and powerboost.
Edit: Mistakes. |
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM
·Comcast
| Re: Comcast announces new bandwidth throttling scheme
I have had Comcast for over 7 years (since they were first available). I am not about to run. I am sitting with open arms enjoying the speed increases.
I agree that they shouldn't try to do more then they are capable of, but thats business.
Know any good realtors that could get me a room @ a data center? I would really enjoy a 99.99% uptime Gbit connection. |
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Daveid
join:2007-06-12
Milpitas, CA
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I could understand "little" relation between throttling and powerboost.. but "absolutely no"?
Let me break it down nice and easy for ya
Why do you think powerboost even exists? A friendly "thank you" to customers? That's not how businesses work bud.
It's all apart of the huge marketing gimmick. It's so they can advertise 30/4 to customers and make it seem like Comcast is so "fast".
When in reality, You only get that 30/4 for a few moments.. until your speeds get "throttled" (See?) down to 22/5.
So, don't say there's "absolutely no" relation between Power boost and throttling.
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM
·Comcast
2 edits | I never said Powerboost was a "thank you" to customers. They just want you to download faster so you can clear space for others on the network to have faster speeds. It's a clever way for them to squeeze a little more out of their network, so they can increase the subscriber base with minimal cost/effort.
Edit: I guess I had a little more to add... Quick question first... What happens if you use 140% of your rated speeds? throttled in 7 minutes.. lol
"When in reality, You only get that 30/4 for a few moments.. until your speeds get "throttled" (See?) down to 22/5."
How can you say you are being throttled when you are getting 100% of what you are paying for? You subscribe to Ultra, which is 22/5. I see Powerboost as a bonus for both parties. |
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Daveid
join:2007-06-12
Milpitas, CA
1 edit | Dictionary: throt·tle
tr.v., -tled, -tling, -tles.
1. a. To regulate the flow of
b. To regulate the speed of
Dictionary: reg·u·late
tr.v., -lat·ed, -lat·ing, -lates.
1. To control or direct
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Drizew
join:2004-09-17
Los Lunas, NM | Well at least we both agree that Comcast throttles the speed for Powerboost. They increase the flow of..... |
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