sivran
Long Live The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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Re: Comcast has new Acceptable Use Policy besides the 250GB cap
Comcast seriously needs a usage monitor of their own. I'd go so far as to say they have to. Otherwise they're brewing up a shitstorm for themselves.
Not very many home routers have a meter, though that will probably change as more ISPs go down the cap/metered billing path. Meters on individual computers in a LAN are next to useless - I've only seen two that separate LAN and WAN traffic, neither of which are free. And even then you'd have to have it on every PC AND then add up the totals? Gimme a break, that's ridiculous.
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newview
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
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said by TKJunkMail  :If you are a WINDOWS user, you can use the FREE Netlimeter 2 Monitor to do this. Put on each PC and total the numbers. » www.netlimiter.com/download.php Please advise as how to install this on my DirecTV HR21-200 DVR which I use to download VOD content via my Comcast HSI.
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captblaze
join:2002-02-15
Pontiac, MI
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once again the consumer is taking it up the pipe because big business wants to make share holders happy. when comcast was trying to hook consumers on broadband the sky was the limit, but now that bandwidth is expensive (hasn't it always been?) what once was "unlimited" is now unlimited with a cap...
wouldn't it be wonderful if the consumer could make changes to the TOS just like comcast does? seeing as the consumers choice is limited to only a scarce few (if any) options and comcast is only interested in the happiness of share holders maybe it is time for the consumers to show comcast that regardless of how wonderful life is with broadband, without the consumers backing comcast is nothing...
with all that being said i am sure i will get a few people who will defend comcast with the usual "that is what capitalism is all about" rhetoric, my position is not anti-capitalism... it is enough is enough...
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Spawne32
join:2007-03-20
Blackwood, NJ | reply to TKJunkMail
looks like ill be dropping comcast for verizon fios at the first chance i get |
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nhgames1010
join:2004-12-01
Lake Worth, FL | reply to TKJunkMail
Did comcast have a 250gb cap all this time and they are now just announcing it? Because if i never went over 250gb all this time im fine with this cap..  |
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n9yty
join:2006-05-10
61115-1270 | reply to TKJunkMail
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beerbum
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join:2000-05-06
Reading, PA
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said by Cabal :said by beerbum : ep.. use more than 250 gig in a month and your connection could be throttled - to zero.  I think you need to do more reading. » Comcast 250GB Cap Goes Live October 1 please explain where my statement is wrong?
per »www.comcast.net/terms/network/amendment/
Today, we're announcing that beginning on October 1, 2008, we will amend our Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) available at »www.comcast.net/terms/use/ and establish a specific monthly data usage threshold of 250 GB/month per account for all residential customers.
according to this, exceeding 250GB per month is a violation of the AUP - you can have your connection terminated for violating the Comcast AUP, therefore if one exceeds 25pGB in a month they can expect the possibility their connection speed will be throttled to zero. |
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comcastgoodidea
@fsu.edu
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Comcast used to send letters about high use for people using around 90 GB a few years ago, so this is a bit more. It is good that the cap is clear, rather than vague. It is better that they ask people using more than 250 GB to upgrade to business service instead of Time Warner's ideas of selling bandwidth at a 1000% markup. |
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tjubb
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join:2002-02-01
Bristow, VA
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I may be reading more into this than is necessary, but based on what I read on page 7 of the AUP pdf, it seems that even if you are below the 250gb threshold AND have a negative impact on the "Service" than you can also get the disconnect. Anyone else getting that from the AUP?
If that's not the case then just use 249gb of bandwidth each month and your abiding by the new policy, right?
BTW, many of you inquiring about a monitor. I use a 3rd party firmware "Tomato" on my Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 router which has a slick bandwidth monitor. I can check my usage for any day, week, month as well as a real-time graph. Most of us BB geeks know about it but maybe some of you don't |
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dscrap
join:2006-12-13
Vineland, NJ
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How will the cap affect people that have Comcast phone service as well as cable TV (On-Demand)? Do those services also use bandwidth? Will the cap be just DL bandwidth or UL as well? I am not happy about the cap, but I can understand why Comcast would do this.
The biggest complaint or concern that I have would be the fact that Comcast needs to give customers the availability to check their usage and maybe even email it to themselves either as an alert or just a reminder. If Comcast is going to cap the service, they need to allow us to check it. Without doing so will just let them say whatever they want to say as usual.
I received an abuse call a few years ago and I spoke to a few different people that all gave me a different amount of bandwidth usage. The highest being 330 GB and lowest was I think 210 GB in a month. If I had known about the cap and had the ability to check it, I would have changed my usage habits to remain under the cap. Nothing ever happened after receiving the call, but I definitely feel that a usage monitor is required and should be provide by Comcast. |
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rolfp
join:2001-09-12
Oakland, CA | reply to tjubb
Yes, there's a lot of 'at the sole discretion of Comcast' on page 7 that would seem to provide for unspecified conditions of harm to the Service that might result in account termination or other remedy. |
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matrixvidpro
join:2006-09-05
Streamwood, IL
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Comcast will count bandwidth for VOIP as well. 250GB seems large but with downloadable high def on the horizon this would be around 10 movies maybe 20 compressed (true 1080p).
I won't even get into if you are an xbox live player, or download your favorite tv shows, etc....
I have been over 250 for quite awhile - never heard a peep. But my bandwidth has definitely been lowered --
The funniest thing about it is they are going to start offering 50-120 MB download speeds... With those speeds they obviously don't have bandwidth issues...
Is it just a way to end up making more coin? |
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dscrap
join:2006-12-13
Vineland, NJ
| LOL... Maybe they should include how many unwanted advertisements we get while surfing the web. Maybe they should include how many spam emails we get for watches, viagra, and foreign lotteries... If I didn't receive all the unwanted crap then I would never go over the cap... Just a thought. |
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netcool
@comcast.net
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said by matrixvidpro :Is it just a way to end up making more coin? Since they haven't announced overage charges as of yet I doubt its a ploy to make more money. It may however save them money in the long run, which is just as desirable to most investors. |
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trent25
join:2005-11-28
Philadelphia, PA
2 edits | reply to TKJunkMail
Comcast should definitely have a page where one can check his usage. They had one for the 2GB/month newsgroup access, so why not have something similar for total monthly traffic usage with an email warning system when you hit say 200GB.
I thought the whole idea behind the changes was about Comcast being more transparent about their network management. How is it transparent if they don't show me how much bandwidth they're clocking on my account. The whole idea that I can measure for myself is pure BS. What if I go beyond 250GB according to Comcast and when they disconnect me I protest that according to my software I am still under 250GB ... will they take my word? ... HELL NO! |
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gabeman
join:2001-05-03
Philadelphia, PA
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Once again, I wonder what the point of having Blast is. At this point, it's like driving 300mph... into a wall. |
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comcasting
@comcast.net
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I also hope and suggest they implement an online Bandwidth usage meter that's accessible through the comcast account page.
I don't know how they mesaure the noise and overhead, but I got a warning a couple years ago. At that time, they quoted me a figure that was definitely at least 2x - 3x more than my actual usage according to my own logs.
I didn't argue about the wildly inaccurate number they gave me, since it was just a warning. But it leads me to believe that their meter will read much higher than a local PC or router meter.
From my past experience, I would say you should cut that cap figure in half or one-third (in terms of file size/local bandwidth meter reading) to stay safe, at least until they start listing your usage in your account. |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
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violate the rules, regulations, or policies applicable to any network, server, computer database, or Web site that you access
LOL love that one. Ok so if a site "bans" deep linking and you do Comcast can kick you off the service. LOL
Talk about covering your bases. Guess I can't be too surprised though.
And how exactly would an IP address not "adhere(s) to the dynamic host conifguration protocol?" |
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FIOS4me
@ups.com
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said by sivran :Comcast seriously needs a usage monitor of their own. I'd go so far as to say they have to. With a hard cap that is publicized, now it becomes a legal "benchmark" if you will. When it was fuzzy, Comcast could keep playing the "significant impact" issues. Now, I think they've opened themselves up to lawsuits unless they find a simple way for the subscriber to confirm that month's usage. And given the prevailing public "discord" with Comcast/Verizon/Name-your-ISP, I think Comcast would be hard-pressed to find a sympathetic judge/jury. |
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OldManKelsie
@rr.com
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I think Comcast is missing the whole point or maybe they have thrown their care for customers completely in the trash. With this 250gb cap I believe they have shot themselves in the foot. Internet usage is only going to increase as more of the world gains access. The thing that really burns my cookies is that they want to "punish" folks for something that 99.9% of all their customers have no idea how to monitor. At least half of them are probably completely lost. At the very least Comcast could have handles this more gracefully by preparing the customer with some kind of educational material.
I think its an indication of their true lack of concern about their customers. Talk is cheap but actions speak louder than words. I've had Comcast for many years but their internet service within the past 2 years has steadily got worse. Maybe their not willing to step up and just want to step aside. I'm sure someone will be glad to take their business. |
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