Smith6612
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4 edits | Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Since the other thread was starting to get too big, this one was started. Otherwise, for anyone wanting to switch between Interleaved and FastPath mode, just like the last thread post up your line stats (Transceiver stats) from the modem, and we can tell you if your line can handle FastPath or if it needs to go back to Interleaved. You can continue your discussion from the previous thread in here.
What is FastPath?
FastPath is a line mode that is set in DSL to improve latency on the DSL lines. Unlike Interleave which is used over longer or marginal lines because of it's error correcting abilities, FastPath will cut the latency from your modem to the DSLAM/Gateway in half, sometimes even more which is beneficial to gamers. For example, a 768k line may get a minimum of 35ms latency to the first gateway on Interleaved. On FastPath, this same connection can get its latency chopped to roughly 14ms. On faster plans from Verizon, you can get latency as low as 6ms on FastPath!
Do I need FastPath?
While everyone here may not be a gamer, FastPath because it cuts latency may make the internet a bit more "snappy," so if your line can handle FastPath but it isn't already set on FastPath, you might as well get it as it can benefit you in the long run, especially in the future since online gaming is a common thing to do these days.
Where do I ask for FastPath?
If you are a member on this site, you can ask to get moved to FastPath or onto Interleave mode via the Verizon Direct forum here. If you are not a member of this site, you can register and ask for FastPath or Interleave in the forum, or you can call Verizon up and they should be able to give it to you. We recommend the forums here though, as they can often save you a lot of time.
I asked for FastPath, why don't I have it?
Not everyone will be able to get FastPath. Though it is something that can be applied in literally minutes to your line, line limitations may be causing the line to not sync with FastPath. Also, the Central Office you are being fed out of may have denied the request for a reason such as the line possibly having problems as well. Traditionally, unless we see that your line cannot handle FastPath without losing sync, you should be able to get it.
What is Interleaved Mode?
Interleaved mode is basically a setting in DSL that will improve the reliability of a DSL like over long lines or marginal lines. Interleaved is also DSL's way of error correcting which is useful, again, or long or marginal lines. Interleaved will help raise the margins slightly and may improve transfer rates over marginal lines, but at the expense of latency. Pings on Interleaved are generally double of what they are on FastPath.
My line keeps disconnecting and I have FastPath! Should I move to Interleaved?
Well, hold on for a minute. Post up your line stats and we can certainly see if FastPath is making you disconnect. If it is the cause, we'll recommend some things for you based on what your internet use is like.
Hope this clears up some questions for people like on the last thread if anyone missed that. | |
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join:2006-02-03
League City, TX
| Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Does Verizon reset the setting? I got on fastpath like a year or so ago and never changed my service plan, but just out of curiosity I was looking up my transceiver stats and it says interleaved now... Don't know how long it's been like that though. Maybe my stats are worse now and they dropped me back? Anyways here they are:
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 15.0 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 31.0 20.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 6.7 11.9
Am I still good enough for fastpath? | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Your stats should be all set to go for FastPath. | |
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join:2008-03-30
West Lafayette, IN
| Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Not sure about my stats.
I called once today, Verizon informed me that a line test as well as a test regarding latency are done during the initial stages and the technicians should have provided me with the optimal settings. I'm assuming it's BS considering so many people have posted and have been changed to FastPath.
My Stats:
Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 7548 863
Margin (dB) 21.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.0 15.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 20.1 12.1 | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Well, your margins are acceptable for FastPath, so it seems like you were fed some bad info. Otherwise, go for it and see how it works out. Seeing as though you already have the 7.1Mbps speed, you are obviously close enough to handle it. | |
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r00ter4u
join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
| i was on fastpath and then moved to interlaced when a technician was at location looking at a high latency issue and low connection speeds. but it worked for over 2 years on fastpath. now that i'm on interlaced i feel my gaming has gotten laggier and downloads are alot slower. any suggestions? | |
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r00ter4u
join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
| Transceiver Revision: 01.00.09.00
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 14.5 13.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 39.0 23.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.7 11.0
i was also wonder if i would be eligible for the speed upgrade. assuming i'm less then a mile away. with those stats. | |
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razedavid
join:2007-05-18
New York, NY
| am i qualify for FastPath?
and if yes should i call verizon to tell them to change it? or i just ask here???
i am n00b at this srry
Transceiver Revision: 6.2.0.211
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 832
Margin (dB) 12.5 10.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 50.0 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 19.4 11.8 | |
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join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY
| Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 so i was moved over to fast path. i see it in transtat i took a speedtest with only my main computer running and no other traffic according to netstat -a. here's a screen shot
»tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6elu7b&s=4
i gather that, that isn't the greatest speed and it isn't the 3Mb that i should be getting? | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 »www.speakeasy.net/speedtest Try testing there. Should give better results. | |
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join:2003-07-22
Corona, NY | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 k that gave me better results but shouldn't the verizon site give the best results since it should just loop? | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Not really for a few reasons. First, the test itself isn't a very good one. Second, the server for it is half way across the country. When running speed tests, it's best to run to servers that are closest to you. | |
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join:2008-08-20
Victorville, CA | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Verizon has admitted their Speed test site is not that good, but does anyone know why their speed test site is not that good. Also, how do you know where the Verizon speed test or receiving test server is located? | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 You may just sneak in under the limit for 7.1, but I kind of doubt it. Never know though. | |
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jimmylao
join:2008-09-28
| Hi everyone, I just became a registered member as I was looking up for firmware upgrades because I had reformatted my computer without backing up bookmarks (I know, I know it was bad).
However, I then stopped by, saw this, and was wondering can I switch to Fastpath?
Transceiver Statistics
Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 20.0 15.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 34.5 18.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 9.5 11.9 | |
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Smith6612
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united state
2 edits | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 You have plenty of margin to mess around with (looks like enough to get 7.1Mbps with FastPath), so go ahead and ask for FastPath. Enjoy! | |
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cvasquez1234
join:2008-09-30
Arlington, VA
| Are my statistics good enough for FastPath?
Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 14.5 12.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 40.5 25.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 6.2 11.9
Thanks ahead of time... | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Yes, those stats should be fine. | |
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zhardhead
join:2005-05-24
Clarksville, OH
| I was on fastpath for 2 months when i was having issues with my line they installed new equipment and I reupped my contract for another year and it switched back to this adsl2+ interleaved instead of the g.dmt interleaved . Can I get switched back to fastpath please, I was not having any issues on it when it was on . And the line response was much better
Transceiver Revision: 4.2.0.11
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 858 156
Margin (dB) 13.5 37.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 49.0 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 19.1 11.7 | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 I think something may be adding some noise to your line, as your margin on the downstream should be a lot higher, but you should be all set to go for FastPath. | |
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berryman
join:2008-10-04
Wabash, IN
| Can I get FastPath?
Transceiver Revision: 4.2.0.11
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 18.5 11.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 18.5 12.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.3 11.9 | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Your line is good for FastPasth, even with 7.1Mbps as well, so go ahead and request it. Enjoy! | |
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join:2008-10-04
Wabash, IN | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 This might be a dumb question but I have to ask, What do you mean by "even with 7.1Mbps as well." | |
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erikhmeier
join:2002-01-31
Alexandria, VA
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| Just wondering if it is worth the shot to move to FastPath and/or 7.1 (if available). First hop pings are currently ~ 24ms.
Here are my stats:
Transceiver Revision: 6.2.0.211
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 14.0 12.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 40.5 26.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.2 11.9 | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 That line should be fine for FastPath. The margins are where expected based on your speed and distance. | |
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join:2002-01-31
Alexandria, VA | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Thanks.
Got switched very quickly and my first hop pings have dropped from 25 ms to under 10 ms. Hope this helps as I'm on VPN all the time. | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 You're welcome. Enjoy it! | |
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Claybor
join:2008-10-14
Salem, VA
| Fastpath was recommended by a friend to possibly combat my gaming lag issues. I thought I would ask here before spending a bunch of time on the telephone. Thanks for any assistance that you can give.
Transceiver Statistics
Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1792 448
Margin (dB) 16.0 20.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 49.5 30.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 13.0 11.8 | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Stats are plenty strong enough for it. Don't waste time on the phone hoping you get someone that actually knows what it is. Go post the request in the Verizon Direct forum. | |
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join:2008-10-14
Salem, VA | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Thanks. Done. | |
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Claybor
join:2008-10-14
Salem, VA
1 edit | I did not read through every post in the 1st forum, but from what I skimmed through most everyone seemed pleased with the results of switching.
How often does someone make the switch to fastpath and regret it? | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Haven't seen one yet. | |
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kingofthenet
join:2005-11-22
Keansburg, NJ
| Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 864
Margin (dB) 17.2 14.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 30.0 16.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.8 12.1
I am on interleave, can I handle this Fastpath? | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Margins are good, go ahead and request FastPath  | |
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Xylem
join:2008-10-11
Baldwin Park, CA | Sorry, this might be a dumb question but I am new to this. How do I find out my line stats? | |
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schwenkster
join:2008-10-21
Terre Haute, IN
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | I just joined the site and this topic caught my eye. Do you think I could move to FastPath?
Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 7616 864
Margin (dB) 14.0 8.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 10.0 7.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 10.8 11.9
thanx
Also wondering where I would ask for this to be done since you say its easier and fast to ask on here. Thanks again | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Oooohhhh!!! 7.1 and good stats to boot! By all means, go for Fastpath. The US Margin is low, but I don't think it will be an issue. The best place to request it is in the Verizon Direct forum on this site. | |
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Smith6612
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united state | Nice sync you have there . As Jodo stated, FastPath is doable on that line so go ahead and ask for it in the V* direct forum. | |
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superdave97
join:2007-11-11
Garland, TX
| Just moved into Verizon area, would I qualify for fastpath?
Transceiver Revision: 7.2.3.0
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Downstream Path Upstream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 768
Margin (dB) 16.0 9.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.0 22.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 7.4 11.9 | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Just try a reboot first. | |
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coolboy0286
join:2007-11-29
Philadelphia, PA
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Transceiver Revision: 7.1.254
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: G.DMT-Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3360 832
Margin (db) 8.5 12.0
Line Attenuation (db) 53.0 18.5
Transmit Power (db/Hz) 15.0 11.0
Do I qualify for fastpath? | |
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coolboy0286
join:2007-11-29
Philadelphia, PA | Woh, hold on there with the terminology, wantta explain to me what those things are? | |
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Smith6612
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| Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 OK. It's pretty simple to understand. Your Sync rate is measured in Kilobits per second, and proper sync rate should be 3360 on the downstream or download side of the modem, and upstream or upload sync should be 864kbps.
Line mode is what kind of ADSL/mode your line is on. G.DMT is Verizon standard, however dependant on area, ADSL2+ and other line modes can be used.
Margin is the measure of DSL signal to your line noise. Your modem can detect this based on the amount of errors that come into the modem. Most of these errors are not noticable or detectable until the line margin gets very, very low. The margin you don't want to be near is 6dB as it shows you might disconnect if the line varies, but 10dB and above is a good margin to maintain.
Line attenuation is how much the DSL signal is weakened by factors such as wire length, old, degraded, and/or low gauge wire, wether there's twisted cable available (twisted pair cable has less noise on it), and of course the things around you. Think of attenuation as turning down the volume on a TV. As more attenuation is added, the quieter the signal is and the harder it is for the modem to hear the DSLAM, and the harder it is for the modem to transmit back to the DSLAM, and the more attenuation there is on a line, the harder the equipment has to work to try to maintain sync, such as increasing the line power.
The transmit power is simply how much energy is getting sent through to the line. | |
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jeazor
join:2008-11-02
| Am I good to go for fast Path?
Transceiver Revision: 4.3.0.1
Vendor ID Code: 4
Line Mode: ADSL2+ Mode
Data Path: Interleaved
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 3354 861
Margin (dB) 21.0 10.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 33.5 14.5
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.2 12.3 | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Re: Need to switch between Interleave and FastPath? Part 2 Yes sir. | |
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