DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
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1 edit | That $800 T1 Line
Is looking more affordably equal every day. |
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MysticGogeta
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | No kidding I would prefer 1.5/1.5 with zero caps then that crap.
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meinmd
@verizon.com | 5meg plan for probably $300 a month...no thanks.
And with that $300 a month you get caps, 1200ms latency, horrible tech support and horrible speeds during peak hours. |
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PhoenixDown
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:  | reply to DrModem
You know there's a problem when the first five posts have people comparing the rates to a T1 line. |
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cooldude9919
join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
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said by DrModem  :Is looking more affordably equal every day. T1's can be had for much less (~$400-$500) depending on your loop distance and if the LEC will even install in a residential address. Get a few neighbors to share and it starts to look pretty decent. |
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adams_aj
join:2004-08-31
Smithville, MO
2 edits | reply to meinmd
The on-board switching, has the possiblity of cutting that latency, possibly in half.
Also, a lot of you are saying "no thanks". But do realize, that this is only the next best thing to dialup--which is still a lot of folks' only other alternative.
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | Sorry, but I'd go with mobile broadband before this. If that wasn't available, I'd still stick with dial-up. |
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GPSF0L
@cox.net | reply to adams_aj
So what you're saying is, since they have a monopoly for high-speed, they can charge those folks whatever they want and put whatever restrictions they want--- I see. |
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nnaarrnn
join:2004-09-30
Nitro, WV | reply to cooldude9919
Yeah, I can provide a t-1 just about anywhere in the state (WV) for around $300. |
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Nightfall
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said by DrModem :Is looking more affordably equal every day. If HughesNet is your only option for broadband, the T1 line for $800 is a viable option if you have the extra $500-$600 per month. Not many have that just laying around. |
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Nightfall
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1 edit | reply to cooldude9919
said by cooldude9919 :said by DrModem :Is looking more affordably equal every day. T1's can be had for much less (~$400-$500) depending on your loop distance and if the LEC will even install in a residential address. Get a few neighbors to share and it starts to look pretty decent. If Hughesnet is your option for broadband, odds are you aren't going to get a T1 for $400-$500 a month. People that far out in the sticks are going to get rates around $800 if not more. |
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yaw
join:2004-05-19
Morgantown, WV | reply to nnaarrnn
Really? Residental? |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
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Yep, a T1 line, even in my remote area, is about $480 a month. I would certainly take that T1 line over satellite. Plus, the T1 is not going to cap me, latency will be less than 20 ms, I can get almost as many IPs as I want, there just are way more advantages to the T1.
If you are even considering this high tier package, probably because you are rural, consider a T1. The price is more but advantages are far more. Plus, the speeds will actually seem far better than what you get from satellite. Yes, they say 3 megs (5 megs, sorry) but in reality I doubt you will really appreciate it. The "Feeling" on a T1 line while surfing and then sitting on a satellite connection (even VSAT systems) are completely noticeable.
That is another thing. The heading seems to make everyone think there is just HughesNet or WildBlue for satellite broadband, that is not true. If you want to, you can install a VSAT system, use the BGAN network, there area a lot of options usually only used by businesses or people that really travel to places like the jungle, but it is an option which is forgotten. They do not advertise much because
A. They do not need to, they have plenty of customers.
B. Those systems do not want to overload anything like the residential services do.
But still, in most areas (at least here) it makes no difference where you live, a T1 HAS to be run if you order it, and the ILEC HAS to deliver it, part of the negatives to being an ILEC (the ILEC runs the local loop but order from the carrier like ATT or Sprint, or whatever, but the ILEC has to put in that loop) |
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nnaarrnn
join:2004-09-30
Nitro, WV
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Pretty much anywhere. Now, that's DATA ONLY. We re-sell ntelos T-1s, we handle all the traffic through our routers across our Metro Ethernet fiber. Of course Verizon still owns all the copper, and would have to make a change or two, but there's no difference in copper coming to your home and the copper coming into your business. The only thing that would have to be done, is a pair at the CO be punched down for a digital connection for the smart jack that would have to be installed on your premesis. T-1s these days are pretty much DSL on crack, to get around loop distance limitations. They're not TRUE serial T-1s anymore. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to GPSF0L
said by GPSF0L :
they can charge those folks whatever they want and put whatever restrictions they want--- I see. If the limitation of the service capability demands it, yes. |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to GPSF0L
Since it's their satellite, YES.
Feel free to build and launch your own satellite and offer whatever you want for $19.99/month.  |
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yaw
join:2004-05-19
Morgantown, WV | reply to nnaarrnn
I'll have to keep you in mind. thanks. |
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wifi4milez
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New York, NY
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| reply to cooldude9919
said by cooldude9919 :said by DrModem :Is looking more affordably equal every day. T1's can be had for much less (~$400-$500) depending on your loop distance and if the LEC will even install in a residential address. Get a few neighbors to share and it starts to look pretty decent. Thats an incorrect statement. T1's can be had some places for $400 to $500, but certainly not all. There are many areas of the country where the loop alone will cost you almost $1000 (or considerably more), IF you can even get a T1 at all. Realistically people buying a $300 a month satellite connection are probably not able to buy "cheap" T1s, otherwise many would.
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WVBill
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1 edit | reply to nnaarrnn
Hmmm - very interesting. OK, so I live outside of Summit Point, WV. Frontier is my telephone company. The CO is in Charles Town - about 8 miles away (the way the crow flies) so I can't get them to provide DSL.
Way outside the range of any 3g broadband.
Can you run a T1 to my house? How much? Seriously.
I live in a small subdivision of 10 homes. If I could set up a WiFi hot spot off my T1 and split the cost of the T1 (Let's say $500?), we could do lots better than Hughesnet.
Is this dreaming or a real possibility?
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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Do the math if you will. Look at it on the 'pay by bit' rate. A $1000.00 T-1 will get you about 450GB/month, or about $2.20/GB. A Hughsnet will get you about call it about 17GB/month for $300.00. Thats about $17.00/GB
Hell, get 4 people, and equally sharing, you still get over 100GB/month each for LESS than you would pay hughesnet for 17GB/month
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