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hottboiinnc
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reply to sousademiami
Re: I don't get it!

it doesnt. People on here and Google like to cry Net Neutrality when its not a such thing.

They don't understand that Net Neutrality is charging another company such as Search or video or IM extra to be "faster" on one company's network.

But as stated here many times it is not a problem the US faces. Canada does not face this either. They just face Bell getting tired of letting others use the network they manage each and every day at a price instead of others building out a WISP that could be huge by now but nobody wanted to do it up there really; except the people here on the WISP board.

But there will be a day that we have caps the same as they do and most other countries, a day where we do not have resellers on the Bell or Cable Networks, and if any companies want to still play they'll need to build out their own network or be forced to explain to their customers and their employees that they decide to take things the easy way and use all they could from the Bells and Cable Cos (TWC areas) and that they can not offer services and everyone must be laid off.


batterup
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said by hottboiinnc See Profile :



They don't understand that Net Neutrality is charging another company such as Search or video or IM extra to be "faster" on one company's network.

Net Neutrality is different things to different leeches. When a law is passed to let all bits and bytes through the same we will pay per bit just like we pay per kilowatt.

Google had the chance to put up and buy the 700 Mhz spectrum and then open it up the leeches and they didn't do it. Put up or shut up, they didn't put up so shut up.


KrK
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Notice to newbies to the forum. Batterup is a long time, fervent believer in Ma Bell. He believes it goes from God, to Ma Bell, to ... etc etc with you and I at the very bottom.


batterup
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said by KrK See Profile :

Notice to newbies to the forum. Batterup is a long time, fervent believer in Ma Bell. He believes it goes from God, to Ma Bell, to ... etc etc with you and I at the very bottom.
Notice KrK has not only his own opinions but his own facts. See;
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KrK
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Thanks!

hottboiinnc
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reply to batterup
i know this. But it wouldnt be DSLR if it wasn't for the weekly articles on what Google things is right or what they have to say.

Especially when the story about Google being sued never hit the front page. Thanks Karl for censoring the news for us.


batterup
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said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

i know this. But it wouldnt be DSLR if it wasn't for the weekly articles on what Google things is right or what they have to say.

Especially when the story about Google being sued never hit the front page. Thanks Karl for censoring the news for us.
Google being sued is not news as it happens so ofter.
»www.informationweek.com/blog/mai···for.html
»www.techtree.com/India/News/Goog···643.html
»news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-9992749-71.html
»tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid···/1351223





hottboiinnc
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my point is that when ever bad press hits Karl's beloved Google it never hits the news here. the emails get deleted in his inbox as his IMs. or they just "don't get delivered" for some reason.

higginslads

join:2008-02-15
Madison, NJ

reply to hottboiinnc
Here's what's slated for Canada:

"In the upcoming weeks watch for a report in Time Magazine that will attempt to smooth over the rough edges of a diabolical plot by Bell Canada and Telus, to begin charging per site fees on most Internet sites. The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.

From my browsing (on the currently free Internet) I have discovered that the 'demise' of the free Internet is slated for 2010 in Canada, and two years later around the world. Canada is seen a good choice to implement such shameful and sinister changes, since Canadians are viewed as being laissez fair, politically uninformed and an easy target. The corporate marauders will iron out the wrinkles in Canada and then spring the new, castrated version of the Internet on the rest of the world, probably with little fanfare, except for some dire warnings about the 'evil' of the Internet (free) and the CEO's spouting about 'safety and security'. These buzzwords usually work pretty well.

What will the Internet look like in Canada in 2010? I suspect that the ISP's will provide a "package" program as companies like Cogeco currently do. Customers will pay for a series of websites as they do now for their television stations. Television stations will be available on-line as part of these packages, which will make the networks happy since they have lost much of the younger market which are surfing and chatting on their computers in the evening. However, as is the case with cable television now, if you choose something that is not part of the package, you know what happens. You pay extra.

And this is where the Internet (free) as we know it will suffer almost immediate, economic strangulation. Thousands and thousands of Internet sites will not be part of the package so users will have to pay extra to visit those sites! In just an hour or two it is possible to easily visit 20-30 sites or more while looking for information. Just imagine how high these costs will be...

»www.informationclearinghouse.inf···0330.htm


MysticGogeta
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reply to hottboiinnc
If you don't like it don't visit the site. Theirs plenty of news websites out there that you can visit and troll on.
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a333
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reply to hottboiinnc
Ummm, the telcos are LAWFULLY REGULATED MONOPOLIES that got their monopoly on the telco infrastructure by agreeing to certain rules. Now, it appears they aren't playing by some of those rules. This isn't about 3rd party ISP's leeching off of bell. You, the consumer, are the one who PAID for the outside plant/network, through your hard earned tax dollars. Therefore, you deserve protection by the government, namely FCC/CRTC, about issues like ISP's tapping into your browsing habits without your due compensation, or capping/throttling your connection without presenting appropriate proof that their network needs it.

"They don't understand that Net Neutrality is charging another company such as Search or video or IM extra to be "faster" on one company's network."
That's the exact opposite of what Net Neutrality IS, so plase elaborate on that thought


batterup
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said by a333 See Profile :

Ummm, the telcos are LAWFULLY REGULATED MONOPOLIES.........

They WERE regulated and the people demanded deregulation. Ma Bell is dead and yet the people are not happy.
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