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  dirtyjeffer Beauty Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON
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| reply to Wolfie00 Re: National park in Alaska tests hybrid bus
i might be wrong on the price, however it was less than 50% of what brand new buses would have cost and i think they were only about 5 years old...the funny thing is they all had working air conditioning in them...as the buses were rotated through the fleet (i think there was about 20 of them), the drivers who didn't get one complained that those buses had air conditioning and it wasn't fair that they didn't have air conditioning in their bus...the city said the buses would rotate and everyone would get a "turn"...many of the drivers pissed and moaned for a few more weeks, so the city disconnected the air conditioning in it, so NO ONE could have air conditioning...stupid bus drivers. -- Best Marketplace Ever: »www.cbc.ca/marketplace/speed_bumps/ | |   Wolfie00 My dog is an elitist Premium join:2005-03-12
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| I'm sure that you must have got the costs wrong -- FYI, the $200,000 bus in the article is not anything like a city bus -- it's a minibus built on a truck chassis, like a small school bus. A city bus costs upwards of half a million as mentioned before, and a hybrid about 40% to 50% more.
It's nice to see those results from Seattle, which brings to mind the fact that there are big differences in hybrid designs and a lot also depends on how they are driven (their biggest advantages are in congested stop-and-go traffic). TTC results haven't been as good as those in Seattle or the ones from New York City, the latter using the same hybrids as Toronto. Government incentives still remain one of the hybrid's big attractions right now for transit commissions, but the technology continues to improve.
All that said, it's still a disappointment to see a city like London investing in diesel (and trying to save money by buying old obsolete ones, too) when other transit systems are going in the opposite direction. TTC management may leave a lot to be desired in other ways, but at least it has an ambitious hybrid program and is investing in a new generation of electric streetcars.

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| |   dirtyjeffer Beauty Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON
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| said by Wolfie00 :I'm sure that you must have got the costs wrong -- FYI, the $200,000 bus in the article is not anything like a city bus -- it's a minibus built on a truck chassis, like a small school bus. A city bus costs upwards of half a million as mentioned before, and a hybrid about 40% to 50% more. yea, i can't remember the price, but it was significantly lower than "brand new buses"...to be quite honest, the buses were only a few years old (for some reason, 5 years comes to mind), but they looked "brand new" anyway, and were the only air conditioned city buses (although, that didn't last long). -- Best Marketplace Ever: »www.cbc.ca/marketplace/speed_bumps/ | |
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