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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SparkChaser <A HREF="/useremail/u/163824"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>... I would imagine that there are other things besides the chemistry that start to fail after a certain time so these graphs may only be linear to the times they show. </div> Agreed, that is probably true. My main point, as borne out by your Energizer graph, was that reducing storage temperature has a significant impact on shelf life (or remaining battery service life at a particular shelf-age point) - certainly more than the "tiny" effect described in the source quoted by  Backspace <A HREF="/useremail/u/550602"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>.<br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : if you store those for more than a year or 20 separate them. they will leak. its been a while since chem class and all but they will develop some whitish crud at the + end.<br><br>if you have kids make them do it. it builds character. or pay them to do it, that's what i do. gl.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:44:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/163824"><b>SparkChaser</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Blackbird <A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>If the quoted 2% self-discharge rate were accurate in the way implied by the quote, alkalines would have a shelf half-life at room temperature approaching 25 years or more... which both my own experiences and the typical battery product date-codes indicate is not the case. <br> </div>Per Energizer, 3%/year at 20C<br><br>[attachment=1]<br><br>I would imagine that there are other things besides the chemistry that start to fail after a certain time so these graphs may only be linear to the times they show.<br><small>--<br> <br>"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley <br><br>"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it" - Mark Twain<br></small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/20829831?c=1330721&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMDgyMTExOC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="74875 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=366 SRC="/r0/download/1330721.thumb600~2f09727544578e95b99fb312c979cf11/alkaline_appman-12.png/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:02:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/836656"><b>IllIlIlllIll</b></A> : when the carbon cells get weak, simply "crack" them to gain a few hours or life out of them. :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Backspace <A HREF="/useremail/u/550602"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html" >www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html</A><br><br>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Putting batteries in the freezer or refrigerator doesn't necessarily prolong their life<br><br>Alkaline batteries stored at "room temperature" self discharge at a rate of less than two percent per year.  So normally refrigerating or freezing them will only help maintain their charge by a tiny amount.  Hardly worth the effort of chilling them.  However, if alkaline batteries are stored at higher temperatures they will start to lose capacity much quicker.  At 85 degrees F they only lose about 5% per year, but at 100 degrees they lose 25% per year.  So if you live in a very hot climate or are storing your batteries in a very hot location, it may be worthwhile for you to store your alkaline batteries in a refrigerator instead....<hr></blockquote><br> </div> If the quoted 2% self-discharge rate were accurate in the way implied by the quote, alkalines would have a shelf half-life at room temperature approaching 25 years or more... which both my own experiences and the typical battery product date-codes indicate is not the case. <br><br>While YMMV somewhat in specific situations, as a consequence of laws of physics related to molecular kinetic energy, most normal chemical reaction rates are directly affected by temperature, usually doubling for an increase of 10 degrees C, and halving for a decrease of 10 degrees C. Self-discharge in a battery is the consequence of a chemical reaction. So, generally speaking, the colder the battery is stored, the longer its nominal shelf life will be - roughly doubling for each 10 degree C drop in storage temperature.<br><br>But passing through the electrolyte's freeze-point can be injurious to battery types with highly liquid electrolytes containing free water (which expands upon freezing and can vent the battery seal). Non-aqueous or paste electrolytes normally do not expand in that manner, plus their freezing points are generally well below 0 degrees C. In any case, as others have noted, a frozen battery should be thawed before use in anything but the lowest current applications.<br><small><i>Edit: spelling</i></small><br><br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/130499"><b>Unit649</b></A> : The only thing I'd worry about is the gap at the end of that box, where if the box fell, perhaps the batteries could change position and somehow create a circuit.<br><br>If you just put it on a shelf like that, its fine, but a fall of a few feet is likely going to rearrange a few of them.  Enough to maybe create a loop that you wouldn't want.....<br><br>(Kinda like sticking a battery in your pocket with keys in them, that happen to touch both ends).]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:13:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1085764"><b>John Galt</b></A> : You need to put little caps on the ends so the electrons don't run out into the box.<br><small>--<br>A is A</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:56:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><b>nightdesigns</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  quatrix <A HREF="/useremail/u/1157186"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nightdesigns <A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>They all get a fresh set of batteries at the beginning of each production.</div>Nice.  I hope they get recycled at least.<br> </div>Of course!<br><small>--<br>This Space for Rent...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/550602"><b>Backspace</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  W5JGV <A HREF="/useremail/u/304268"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Backspace <A HREF="/useremail/u/550602"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html" >www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html</A><br><br>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Putting batteries in the freezer or refrigerator doesn't necessarily prolong their life<hr></blockquote><br><br> </div>I placed about a hundred new alkaline non-rechargable cells in the freezer about 20 years ago. Every year, I remove some of them from the freezer, allow then to warm up, and test them for pulse current, voltage and ampere hour capacity.<br><br>Ralph  W5JGV<br> </div>Post back here in another 20 years and let us know how the batteries are holding up. ;)<br><br>Seriously, that's a helluva long time to run an experiment. <br>Kudos to you.<br><small>--<br><b><i>Hussein bin Osama 2008</i></b><br>&#1575;&#1587;&#1575;&#1605;&#1577; &#1576;&#1606; &#1581;&#1587;&#1610;&#1606; 2008</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:15:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/216677"><b>8744675</b></A> : I would worry more about why I have so many batteries in the first place.  The Department of Homeland Security may be paying you a visit soon!  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/320321"><b>Maccawolf</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  ErikVKing <A HREF="/useremail/u/1559920"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I have to chuckle here ... a question about AA batteries in a box gets to 3rd place in the "Hottest Topic"!   :D :) :D :)<br> </div>It's the summer, what do you expect? our brains are all on vacation (whether we are or not) :)<br><small>--<br><br><br>Mom and Crockett...... I miss you both!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1559920"><b>ErikVKing</b></A> : I have to chuckle here ... a question about AA batteries in a box gets to 3rd place in the "Hottest Topic"!   :D :) :D :)<br><small>--<br>"I am Jack's utter lack of surprise."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1133848"><b>PolarBear</b></A> : Or just the battery out of a DeLorean.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1133848"><b>PolarBear</b></A> : You have WAY too much patience and time on your hands...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><b>Oleg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jhboricua <A HREF="/useremail/u/163873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Flux Capacitor backup charge????<br> </div>As far as i know you need uranium batteries LOL.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/163873"><b>jhboricua</b></A> : Flux Capacitor backup charge????]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/645263"><b>davidg</b></A> : we order them 1000 at a time as well. as long as nothing compltete the circuit you are fine. <br><small>--<br>Lack of Preparation on YOUR Part does NOT Constitute an Emergency on Mine!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><b>Oleg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  WALL_E <A HREF="/useremail/u/818279"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I, on the other hand, couldn't care less.  ;)<br> </div>So you do not care about environment.Shame on you :-) ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/818279"><b>WALL_E</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Oleg <A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  quatrix <A HREF="/useremail/u/1157186"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nightdesigns <A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br></div>Nice.  I hope they get recycled at least.<br> </div>I agree.<br> </div>I, on the other hand, couldn't care less.  ;)<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.atheist-community.org">The Atheist Community of Austin</a><br>God is just pretend.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><b>Oleg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  quatrix <A HREF="/useremail/u/1157186"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nightdesigns <A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br></div>Nice.  I hope they get recycled at least.<br> </div>I agree.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1157186"><b>quatrix</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  nightdesigns <A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>They all get a fresh set of batteries at the beginning of each production.</div>Nice.  I hope they get recycled at least.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304268"><b>W5JGV</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Backspace <A HREF="/useremail/u/550602"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html" >www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html</A><br><br>  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Putting batteries in the freezer or refrigerator doesn't necessarily prolong their life<hr></blockquote><br><br> </div>I respectfully disagree with greenbatteries.com statement.<br><br>I have stored both conventional and alkaline cells in the freezer at temperatures of between 0 to -10 F with excellent results.<br><br>As a long-term experiment, I placed about a hundred new alkaline non-rechargable cells in the freezer about 20 years ago. Every year, I remove some of them from the freezer, allow then to warm up, and test them for pulse current, voltage and ampere hour capacity.<br><br>The last ones I removed from cold storage tested within several percent just like they did immediately after purchase.  In fact, the batteries have outlasted the original freezer!<br><br>Ralph  W5JGV]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><b>nightdesigns</b></A> : I oversee operations at a TV station.  We have lots of wireless communications devices that need power (microphones, communications devices, IFB, etc).  They all get a fresh set of batteries at the beginning of each production. <br><small>--<br>This Space for Rent...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1281691"><b>KenTheCook</b></A> : Good info, thanks]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1106467"><b>artisticcheese</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  nightdesigns <A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I order batteries 1,000 at a time.  They ship in that manner.  I'm guessing is the vendor ships them like that, they are fine.  Never had an issue.<br> </div>1000 at a time. What do you use them for?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/638243"><b>nightdesigns</b></A> : I order batteries 1,000 at a time.  They ship in that manner.  I'm guessing is the vendor ships them like that, they are fine.  Never had an issue.<br><small>--<br>This Space for Rent...</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:16:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/310401"><b>bigunk</b></A> : It doesn't matter what temperature a room is. It's always room temperature.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:15:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><b>Oleg</b></A> : Thanks for the info Backspace,but i'll pass.It's better to be green  :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:13:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/550602"><b>Backspace</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html" >www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html</A><br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Putting batteries in the freezer or refrigerator doesn't necessarily prolong their life<br><br>Alkaline batteries stored at "room temperature" self discharge at a rate of less than two percent per year.  So normally refrigerating or freezing them will only help maintain their charge by a tiny amount.  Hardly worth the effort of chilling them.  However, if alkaline batteries are stored at higher temperatures they will start to lose capacity much quicker.  At 85 degrees F they only lose about 5% per year, but at 100 degrees they lose 25% per year.  So if you live in a very hot climate or are storing your batteries in a very hot location, it may be worthwhile for you to store your alkaline batteries in a refrigerator instead.<br><br>NiMH and NiCd batteries self discharge at a MUCH faster rate than alkaline batteries.  In fact, at "room temperature" (about 70 degrees F) NiMH and NiCD batteries will self discharge a few percent PER DAY.  Storing them at lower temperatures will slow their self discharge rate dramatically.  NiMH batteries stored at freezing will retain over 90% of their charge for  full month. So it might make sense to store them in a freezer.  If you do, it's best to bring them back to room temperature before using them. Even if you don't freeze your NiMH batteries after charging them, you should store them in a cool place to minimize their self discharge.<hr></blockquote><br><small>--<br><b><i>Hussein bin Osama 2008</i></b><br>&#1575;&#1587;&#1575;&#1605;&#1577; &#1576;&#1606; &#1581;&#1587;&#1610;&#1606; 2008</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:58:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Storing AA batteries end-to-end</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/818279"><b>WALL_E</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Oleg <A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I am only using rechargeable batteries.  <br> </div>I've found rechargeable batteries to be unsuitable for some of my applications (wireless mice, remote controls, clocks, Maglite flashlights...)<br><br>My Logitech cordless mouse goes about three weeks on rechargeable batteries.  With good-quality regular alkaline batteries, I get at least five months.<br><br>The only things I use rechargeable batteries for in my home is for a digital camera, Nintendo Wii controllers and Xbox 360 controllers.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.atheist-community.org">The Atheist Community of Austin</a><br>God is just pretend.<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:53:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/817255"><b>Alcohol</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Oleg <A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I am only using rechargeable batteries.  <br> </div>Thank you for sharing? ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:50:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/171865"><b>Hayward</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Maccawolf <A HREF="/useremail/u/320321"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Don't know of any problem that way either, but you also might want to FREEZE them. MUCH longer shelf life, of course, you have to remember to defrost tham before use,,,,,<br> </div>Some batteries freezing is not a good idea, but refridgeration is.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://haywardm.com" >haywardm.com</A> (Hayward's Key West)<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:49:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/910278"><b>Oleg</b></A> : I am only using rechargeable batteries.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:47:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/250154"><b>heliox</b></A> : Get a room you two]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:09:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1414214"><b>EG</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  cocothebean <A HREF="/useremail/u/722122"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think it will affect the shelf life as they are now sending charges back and forth!!!<br>I'd put a cardboard divider between the 2 layers!!!<br> </div>Disagree...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:35:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/400265"><b>Subaru</b></A> : just making sure we are on the same page.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:23:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/720248"><b>Johkal</b></A> : And I said in my first post: "I don't believe the batteries will be drained in any way"<br><br>Around in a circle here.<br><small>--<br>Write me up a 125.......I Can't Drive 55   &raquo;<A HREF="http://redrocker.com/" >redrocker.com/</A>  &raquo;<A HREF="http://cabowabo.com/" >cabowabo.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/400265"><b>Subaru</b></A> : and I'm saying it's not draining the battery other then naturally just sitting in a box...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:21:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/720248"><b>Johkal</b></A> : I didn't say it was completing a circuit, just telling you that your statement was incorrect. <br><br>"the positive terminal is not touching the negative end"<br><small>--<br>Write me up a 125.......I Can't Drive 55   &raquo;<A HREF="http://redrocker.com/" >redrocker.com/</A>  &raquo;<A HREF="http://cabowabo.com/" >cabowabo.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:19:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/400265"><b>Subaru</b></A> : but it's not completing a circuit..<br><br>It's too simple to understand.. In the current picture if you left it like it was as shown above but took wire and hooked the Negative to positive then it would drain and short circuit as well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:17:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/720248"><b>Johkal</b></A> : I don't believe the batteries will be drained in any way, but they are touching positive to negative. Look at the picture.<br><small>--<br>Write me up a 125.......I Can't Drive 55   &raquo;<A HREF="http://redrocker.com/" >redrocker.com/</A>  &raquo;<A HREF="http://cabowabo.com/" >cabowabo.com/</A></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:15:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/400265"><b>Subaru</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  cocothebean <A HREF="/useremail/u/722122"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think it will affect the shelf life as they are now sending charges back and forth!!!<br>I'd put a cardboard divider between the 2 layers!!!<br> </div> :hmm:<br><br>How is it sending a charge when the positive terminal is not touching the negative end???<br><br>And if it did somehow again..  :uhh:  the battery would get very hot.<br><small>--<br>It's <b>NOT</b> Ni-kon It's NE-KON!<br><br><br><br><br>Check out my Gallery!<br>&raquo;<A HREF="/pics/dimaging/400265">/pics/dimaging/400265</A><br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:00:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/722122"><b>cocothebean</b></A> : I think it will affect the shelf life as they are now sending charges back and forth!!!<br>I'd put a cardboard divider between the 2 layers!!!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:35:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/320321"><b>Maccawolf</b></A> : Don't know of any problem that way either, but you also might want to FREEZE them. MUCH longer shelf life, of course, you have to remember to defrost tham before use,,,,,]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:25:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/359759"><b>Ray</b></A> : Probably not, but I'd slip a piece of cardboard between the rows anyway.<br><small>--<br>ON DELETE CASCADE</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:48:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1542091"><b>sjprep06</b></A> : I wouldn't think so since there isn't a completed circuit anywhere....<br><br>Can I have some of those batteries though? :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:25:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/818279"><b>WALL_E</b></A> : Is there anything wrong with storing AA batteries in this manner, with opposite ends touching?  Will this affect their shelf life?<br><br>Yes, this is what I worry about on a weekend.  :(  :D<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/20821013?c=1330086&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMDgyMTExOC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="496567 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=450 SRC="/r0/download/1330086.thumb600~01809f9bb153c3c680de2dc9e7a66f24/IMG_0022.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:59:22 EDT</pubDate>
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