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Anonymous Coward

@cv.net

How to defeat the throttle

The following article from the CRTC website shows how to defeat the throttle:

»www.crtc.gc.ca/public/partvii/20···3769.PDF

===

A more fundamental flaw in the Traffic Management Solution championed by Bell Canada is revealed when one considers exactly how they dealt with the
problem of encrypted traffic. Forced to associate VPN connections with a specific
port, they make it trivial for users of peer-to-peer applications to bypass the DPI.
A user wishing to download content via BitTorrent needs only to configure their
client to use the VPN TCP port to transfer content, associate any remaining UDP
ports with the standard IPSec Authentication and Encapsulating UDP ports, and
strictly apply protocol encryption to all incoming connections.

===

Set your bittorrent port to TCP/1723, and put any DHT or tracking on UDP/500, UDP/50, UDP/51.


effbell

@bell.ca
This seems to work. It's 10:30pm and I'm pulling 450kb/s down.


gelinas

@bell.ca

reply to Anonymous Coward
This certainly works, Bell began throttling me today. I'll switch to teksavvy or acanac at the end of the month, this should see me through.

If they ever close this loophole, people might want to look at xerobank's anonymous VPN services. I know i'll be using it if bill c-61 goes through.

knothead

join:2008-05-20
London, ON
reply to Anonymous Coward
I haven't actually noticed any throttling on my account lately, is that still in effect? (London, ON).


gelinas

@bell.ca
reply to Anonymous Coward
started in London today for me

oxymoron69

join:2004-11-10
Belleville, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..


edit:
July 9th, @12:04AM

reply to Anonymous Coward
Setting my ports to 1723 has no visible effect, i suspect that Bells DPI has at least a 60 second delay.

I've also reset my modem, router and pc a few times just to make sure that the throttle is likely off...
This is also downloading from private trackers that normally hook me up with xbox360 games at 600K/s.
:-(
I'll fuck with it some more and write more later.


Candoo3

join:2005-01-24
Did you forward the port?


Anonymous Coward

@cv.net

throttling started over the last week in London ON for me on sympatico. was routinely pulling 500kb/s and all of a sudden went to 30kb/s.

thanks for the post, op. swapped to tcp 1723 and configured for encrypted connections - saw my dl's jump back to 500kb/s again.


Anonymous Coward

@cv.net
Thank the guys @ Per vices


Anonymous Coward

@cv.net

reply to gelinas
Actually, if you RTA, you find that this isn't a loop hole; it's a direct result of how they throttle, and that they can't secure VPN traffic because it's encrypted.

(Another copy of the article is here:

»www.pervices.com/docs/CAIP_support.pdf

)


mubarek187

@bell.ca
reply to Anonymous Coward
any insight on how to change the ports with utorrent? or another xp compatible bittorrent client such as azureus?

in utorrent i did find the one option to change a port, but i dont think that covers dht or tracking.

thanks

mudman2479

join:2008-02-22
Amherstburg, ON
reply to Anonymous Coward
and put any DHT or tracking on UDP/500, UDP/50, UDP/51.

How do you do that with utorrent 1.7.7?


theninjasqua

join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON

said by mudman2479 See Profile :

and put any DHT or tracking on UDP/500, UDP/50, UDP/51.

How do you do that with utorrent 1.7.7?
I was wondering the same thing. Unless they meant for having your firewall open on those ports and protocols.
--

-theninjasquad

damojo

join:2006-12-09
Markham, ON
But you would need to configure uTorrent to use those UDP ports for DHT once the ports are open...


theninjasqua

join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON

Unless uTorrent knew somehow that by using VPN TCP port to use the other ones on UDP.

I think you may be able to make the changes under the advance options in utorrent. Im not home now so I can't check, but thats the only place that comes to mind.
--

-theninjasquad

damojo

join:2006-12-09
Markham, ON

said by theninjasqua See Profile :


I think you may be able to make the changes under the advance options in utorrent. Im not home now so I can't check, but thats the only place that comes to mind.
already checked there but nothing obvious stuck out

BellACancer

join:2008-06-04
reply to Anonymous Coward
Je confirme : l'information est complètement fausse.

Même avec encryption et le port 1723, il n'y a aucun moyen de faire cesser le throttle. J'utilise UTorrent

damojo

join:2006-12-09
Markham, ON

said by BellACancer See Profile :

Je confirme : l'information est complètement fausse.

Même avec encryption et le port 1723, il n'y a aucun moyen de faire cesser le throttle. J'utilise UTorrent
shh dammit

svtcanuk

join:2006-01-14
Trying to make these changes in Azureus (Vuze) but like most people I am stuck on the DHT part. Where are these changes made?

oxymoron69

join:2004-11-10
Belleville, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..


edit:
July 8th, @09:25PM

I've forwarded the port 1723 for tcp/udp in my router
(wrt54gs running dd-wrt) disabled DHT altogether, and still no change in speed.

I'm running utorrent in xp sp3 connected via teksavvy on a 6000/800 line...
I'll try and do this in ubuntu with ktorrent and post if there's any change in result.
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