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cabbey

join:2005-10-30
Rochester, MN
·Packet8

[CBN] [CBN] planned outage schedule?

Anyone know if the NOC posts a planned outage/maintenance schedule anywhere? It seems the local maintenance window happens to the be same as the maintenance window my company uses... making it awfully hard to participate in our maintenance and deployment. I called support a couple times, all they've been able to do is confirm that yes, my area is currently under a maintenance action, and that if it's not back in the morning to please call back.

sittin_tech

join:2004-04-13
Rochester, MN
That's just bad luck, they're updating node by node, shouldn't be down more than one night. maybe 2 if they had any issues.

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

reply to cabbey
It would certainly be helpful if they would make a publicly available board. It is often like pulling teeth to get any information from level 1 techs. Maybe a website where you entered your zip code and it spat out problems and the next seven days of scheduled maintenance. Most of us have at least minimal backup internet access, if nothing else the local library.

There have been a number of occasions where our local techs new well in advance that maintenance was going to occur on a certain day. If we knew this was coming we could arrange our schedules to work around those times.


pay4whatUget

@charter.com

reply to cabbey
Unless you are a fiber based customer, the answer to your question is no. If you are running your business on regular old coax, your suspect to RF maintenance, which can be frequent and often, as we all know. Our company switched to the fiber side for just that reason. We now enjoy a guaranteed 99.999% (5 Nine's) up time, and we get a 10 day notice on any work they may have to do. They don't touch the fiber too often, and when they do, we just fail over automatically to our secondary (more expensive) provider.

benc
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join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
·Charter Pipeline
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·AT&T Midwest

said by pay4whatUget :

Unless you are a fiber based customer, the answer to your question is no. If you are running your business on regular old coax, your suspect to RF maintenance, which can be frequent and often, as we all know. Our company switched to the fiber side for just that reason. We now enjoy a guaranteed 99.999% (5 Nine's) up time, and we get a 10 day notice on any work they may have to do. They don't touch the fiber too often, and when they do, we just fail over automatically to our secondary (more expensive) provider.
Charter has FTTP? Cool.

Is there a significant price difference? I'm just curious.

As for outages, it would be nice to know if they were going to happen, since my back-up connection happens to be dial-up. I only have a single POTS line so it's important that I don't use dial-up much. Fortunately, I haven't had to.

cabbey

join:2005-10-30
Rochester, MN
·Packet8

reply to sittin_tech
said by sittin_tech See Profile :

That's just bad luck, they're updating node by node, shouldn't be down more than one night. maybe 2 if they had any issues.
So far in the 3 weeks since I moved from my old employers VPN to my new CBN account, I've been hit 5 nights by outages that sure felt like maintenance. i.e. solid as a rock until 1:00am on the nose, or 1:10am on the nose... then boom... lost it. (that's only 11:00pm PST, which is the center of the universe for my new employer, so that's just starting into our maintenance window.)

cabbey

join:2005-10-30
Rochester, MN
·Packet8


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July 8th, @12:50AM

reply to Lazlow
said by Lazlow See Profile :

It would certainly be helpful if they would make a publicly available board. It is often like pulling teeth to get any information from level 1 techs. Maybe a website where you entered your zip code and it spat out problems and the next seven days of scheduled maintenance. Most of us have at least minimal backup internet access, if nothing else the local library.

There have been a number of occasions where our local techs new well in advance that maintenance was going to occur on a certain day. If we knew this was coming we could arrange our schedules to work around those times.
Heh, local library at 1 in the morning might not go over well around here.

However, I know at least two local places with free wifi that don't shut down their WAPs at night, and their parking lots get good signal. SOLUTION. OF. LAST. RESORT.

cabbey

join:2005-10-30
Rochester, MN
·Packet8

reply to benc
said by benc See Profile :

Charter has FTTP? Cool.

Is there a significant price difference? I'm just curious.
Charter's fiber offering is not what I'd call 'to the pole'. Not by a long shot. It's very very expensive... on par with getting dedicated fiber run anywhere else, like from the phone company or some other provider. In fact the three places I know that have a fiber CBN connection... pretty much the same. One just happens to be across the street from a charter fiber-to-copper conversion point, so they were able to get it for only a couple tens of grand (to run fiber across the street and into their building), the others paid huge sums of money to get a fiber run in some cases MILES to their location. And the monthly cost is huge.

Phatty

join:2000-05-10
Valley Park, MO
·Vonage
·Charter Pipeline


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July 8th, @12:24PM

said by cabbey See Profile :

said by benc See Profile :

Charter has FTTP? Cool.

Is there a significant price difference? I'm just curious.
Charter's fiber offering is not what I'd call 'to the pole'. Not by a long shot. It's very very expensive... on par with getting dedicated fiber run anywhere else, like from the phone company or some other provider. In fact the three places I know that have a fiber CBN connection... pretty much the same. One just happens to be across the street from a charter fiber-to-copper conversion point, so they were able to get it for only a couple tens of grand (to run fiber across the street and into their building), the others paid huge sums of money to get a fiber run in some cases MILES to their location. And the monthly cost is huge.
Yeah it is fairly expensive but is about the same or less than most other providers would offer for similar speeds, support, and most importantly the ability to increase speeds on the fly upto 1gbps. It is not for your average small business customers by any means but when you need serious bandwidth and reliability it gets the job done. We have both an Internet Pipe and Point to Point pipe between locations that goes through Charter Fiber.


pay4whatUget

@charter.com

reply to cabbey
said by cabbey See Profile :

said by benc See Profile :

Charter has FTTP? Cool.

Is there a significant price difference? I'm just curious.
Charter's fiber offering is not what I'd call 'to the pole'. Not by a long shot. It's very very expensive... on par with getting dedicated fiber run anywhere else, like from the phone company or some other provider. In fact the three places I know that have a fiber CBN connection... pretty much the same. One just happens to be across the street from a charter fiber-to-copper conversion point, so they were able to get it for only a couple tens of grand (to run fiber across the street and into their building), the others paid huge sums of money to get a fiber run in some cases MILES to their location. And the monthly cost is huge.
As someone who uses the product every day, I can say it's pretty top notch. There is no copper involved, they don't run it just to the pole as cabbey is stating. They run fiber right to the dmarc in our server room. From there, a fiber runs to a cisco 3750 that Charter places there, and they manage. We plug into the ports they tell us, and that's it. We have a 50MB (bi-directional) Internet pipe with a /24 block of IP'., as well as a 100MB connection to our other location across town. And when compared to the bells the price is cheap. We are essentially part of Charter's core network infrastructure. We have one hop to the Internet.

cabbey

join:2005-10-30
Rochester, MN
·Packet8


edit:
July 9th, @02:04AM

said by pay4whatUget :

said by cabbey See Profile :

said by benc See Profile :

Charter has FTTP? Cool.

Is there a significant price difference? I'm just curious.
Charter's fiber offering is not what I'd call 'to the pole'. Not by a long shot.
As someone who uses the product every day, I can say it's pretty top notch. There is no copper involved, they don't run it just to the pole as cabbey is stating.
You'll note I was expanding benc's acronym FTTP to it's common "Fiber to the Pole"... and in fact saying what you were, that charter's offering wasn't that.

And yes, we also agree on their quality. In the 7 or so years that my previous employer had a charter fiber link into the site, I can only think of one user visible outage on that link. And that involved an idiot with a backhoe.

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO
Usually FTTP is fiber to the premises.

cabbey

join:2005-10-30
Rochester, MN
D'oh. Good point Lazlow. Brain clearly wasn't working when I wrote that.
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