jeffster1970
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July 6th, @08:08PM
| [Vista] How many processes on Vista, peoples??
Do the ctrl-shift-esc things and look under processes. How many are we running here? What is normal? Trying to get them down to a reasonable number, so far, got it from around 59 to 45, (post boot-up, i didn't do any right click 'End Process Tree') Was wondering what others have done?
Oh, the machine:
AMD Turion 64 dual core (64 bits, on a 32 system, so, useless in that regard) @ 1.8 GHz
Geforce Go 6150 NVidia ""287 *SHARED**""(we have no drivers for Windows vista, but we won't provide drivers for XP since your machine was purchased as a HP Vista..haha, sucker)
2 GB of memory, standard stuff for this machine, i believe it's the 667MHz, running as dual channels.
Got meself a 2 GB SD Card for ReadyBoost, 150X speed. The debate rages with this one. Especially since I ran out of room on my camera.
Anyway, that part was off topic. Oh, and case you're all wondering...laptop.
Hoping to shave a few more that are really not needed. I'm doing this in the dim hope that I might have this machine one day be able to do semi complex games (Need for Speed) and run Quicktime Movies with being all choppy. If my crappy 1 GB Mem, 16 MB Video, 1.6 GHz processor on my thinkpad, running xp, can do the above, surely this powerhouse can do a bit better.
Sorry, should add that I had XP to around 20+-3 or 4, prior research shows some have managed to go under 20, not sure how they do that...and if the system would even be stable. Boot time on this machine is 82 secs, want it under 40 if possible.
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July 6th, @10:37PM
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Got my processes up to 81 and re-boot time down to 74 seconds. dadkins  and I are having a processes contest. 
[EDIT] Actually, I have a lot of stuff installed so it's hard for me to get them down that much and even with 81 running, I have no performance issues and I rarely ever use more than half of my 2GB of RAM (normally 35-40% used).
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DownTheShore
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At the moment, my processes for all users is at 77.  |
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lostboy8
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I was just about to ask this exact same question. Glad to see someone posted it. I'm currently running 79 process on idle w/ Vista. Is that too many? |
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PeteC2
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said by jeffster1970 :Oh, the machine: AMD Turion 64 dual core (64 bits, on a 32 system, so, useless in that regard) @ 1.8 GHz Geforce Go 6150 NVidia ""287 *SHARED**""(we have no drivers for Windows vista, but we won't provide drivers for XP since your machine was purchased as a HP Vista..haha, sucker) 2 GB of memory, standard stuff for this machine, i believe it's the 667MHz, running as dual channels. Got meself a 2 GB SD Card for ReadyBoost, 150X speed. The debate rages with this one. Especially since I ran out of room on my camera. Anyway, that part was off topic. Oh, and case you're all wondering...laptop. Hoping to shave a few more that are really not needed. I'm doing this in the dim hope that I might have this machine one day be able to do semi complex games (Need for Speed) and run Quicktime Movies with being all choppy. If my crappy 1 GB Mem, 16 MB Video, 1.6 GHz processor on my thinkpad, running xp, can do the above, surely this powerhouse can do a bit better. Forget the number of processes, it is truly secondary to one glaring problem, insofar as running games goes:
Your "powerhouse" AMD Turion TL56 (or even worse, TK-57?), w/Geforce GO 6150 graphics...simply is not a gaming powerhouse whatsoever, whether you run Vist, or XP  You bought a budget notebook, and are getting the performance out of it that it was designed to give...
The 1.8 Turion is an "ok" cpu, far from a powerful solution, but ok...however, the integrated GO 6150 in terms of gaming? Utterly anemic...
BTW, please do not get me wrong, I am not knocking the notebook, but it simply is not adequate at all as a gaming machine. I have an AMD Turion TL-58 w/GO 7150 graphics...and it is a fine general-purpose, budget notebook...but I bought it with zero intentions of doing any gaming with it...were that the case, I would have settled for nothing less than discrete graphics...
This is not a "Vista" thing, rather not the right hardware for the job...cutting back processes will not give you any better graphics capability, the GO 6150 just does not have much horse-power for gaming.
As far as ReadyBoost? As you already have 2gb ram, it likely will give scant improvement...to each his own, but I have tried it with 2gb ram, and the effect, if any, was negligible. I hear that in computers with low memory for Vista, say 512mb, ReadyBoost may really be a help, but not much so once you have an adequate amount of ram to begin with.
On the other hand, I have no problems whatsoever running Quicktime movies without choppiness, and I have not pruned back a lot of processes at all...that may be another issue entirely.
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jeffster1970
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| You're probably right about the gaming thing. I never purchased this machine with the idea of playing games, however, my 5 year old has other ideas. I just didn't think that a need for speed game would be handled with major difficulties. Been trying to see what the Quicktime issue is. I got it working good on full screen, by unchecking 'TrustedInstaller' for start-up. But pretty sure it's still driver issues. Problem with laptop, integrated graphics....bla...
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| said by jeffster1970 :You're probably right about the gaming thing. I never purchased this machine with the idea of playing games, however, my 5 year old has other ideas. I just didn't think that a need for speed game would be handled with major difficulties. Been trying to see what the Quicktime issue is. I got it working good on full screen, by unchecking 'TrustedInstaller' for start-up. But pretty sure it's still driver issues. Problem with laptop, integrated graphics....bla... Well, I do not know Need for Speed's recommended/required graphics, but, to be sure, the GO 6150 is not built for any taxing gameplay.
Like I said though, the Quicktime stuttering is something else, as even the tamest integrated graphics are sufficient to run Quicktime movies, etc.
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SoonerAl
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48 on my old laptop running Vista Ultimate... |
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July 7th, @04:11PM
| BTW, 103 processes (including browser), 7% cpu usage, 46% Physical memory...and with all that, I can cleanly run a QuickTime movie without stuttering on a Turion TL-58, w/integrated GO 7150 graphics (4gb ram) notebook.
Without a doubt, I can do a little judicious "pruning" of what is running...but really? Not an issue, as it is running just fine...
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Pole883
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32 here........... |
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jeffster1970
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| said by Pole883 :32 here........... What did you do to get it down so low?? Very impressive.
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said by Pole883 :32 here........... 36 here. Hmmm lets see if I can eliminate 4 more:) |
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July 7th, @09:52PM
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Just curious, but what's the primary advantage of doing this? Is it mostly for games? (Something I don't do). With 80+ processes running, I can do everything I need to, with no performance hits that I can see, including recording real-time 1080p HD video and without taxing my resources to a point that it negatively affects anything.
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not in ohio | If you can't see a process using up CPU when you look at it with Task Manager, getting rid of that process won't make any more CPU cycles available! |
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July 7th, @11:17PM
| said by dave :If you can't see a process using up CPU when you look at it with Task Manager, getting rid of that process won't make any more CPU cycles available! Makes sense and with Vista fully loaded, and 80-some processes running, I'm barely using 40% of my RAM. Don't see what all the fuss is about (except when the minimalist posts here when something breaks due to preventing processes from running).
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July 8th, @01:28AM
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said by howie :Got my processes up to 81 and re-boot time down to 74 seconds. dadkins and I are having a processes contest. [EDIT] Actually, I have a lot of stuff installed so it's hard for me to get them down that much and even with 81 running, I have no performance issues and I rarely ever use more than half of my 2GB of RAM (normally 35-40% used). 91... @ 1% CPU Usage(damn Task Manager eating 1%).
Do I win?
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July 8th, @03:19AM
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56 Processes, 100% CPU usage. 
I crunch for a cure, therefore the 100% CPU usage. I've only disabled a few things on this computer. For the most part, I leave well enough alone until such time a guru (and not Black Viper!) comes along and explicitly says I should disable something. |
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66 with all my normal work/play apps open. Not sure if they all my work/play apps are closed what it would drop to. Maybe 60? |
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July 8th, @08:34AM
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Right after booting up (no additional applications ran by me afterwords). |
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