netwerk
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join:2003-02-03
BC | reply to psydfx
Re: Wireless Telus TV possible idea (but having probs so far)
How does telus gain access to the shaw box outside the house. I'm pretty sure that shaw locks it and say its their property
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Ikarasu
join:2004-01-09
Port Coquitlam, BC | Shaw might give Telus keys.
When I installed sat, the sat installer said he left his key at home, I had to call shaw and get them to come out and leave the side off, to this day it's still not locked up... too bad I dont need free cable :\ |
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psydfx
join:2002-12-20
Canada
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Like Ikarasu said. If a customer wants access to their coax box on the side of the house or in their suite they just have to call Shaw to come open it. They will just disconnect their main feed at the pole or downstairs in the main room so you can't get free cable.
Shaw doesn't want stuff back-feeding onto their network so if you're using the coax for satellite feeds or any other sort of data they will come out otherwise they would put their own network at risk.
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Randsl Dude
join:2000-08-13
Canada
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Telus doesn't need to access the Shaw box on the outside of the house.
From Shaws box is a main coax feed that terminates inside the house by the electrical panel, where it is split to feed all the coax runs in the house.
It's only on older houses where the coax has been split in the Shaw box and run on the exterior of the house and then run into rooms to supply the service.
Telus can simply intercept the coax at any point and install a filter and splitter to prevent the TTV service from back feeding onto the Shaw network. |
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psydfx
join:2002-12-20
Canada
| Sorry to contradict you, but that's not the case.
90% of newer houses out there have all the individual coax runs fed back to the inside of the Shaw box on the side of the house where they connect up to the splitter.
In newer condos/townhomes (around 1990 forward) they tend to all run the coax back to a locked cabinet inside the entryway closet.
Older apartments/condos have a splitter behind a main coax jack typically. Older houses can have a myriad of differente combinations with splitters hidden in various spots.
And TelusTV installers do have access to them all through agreements with Shaw so we can use it to deliver the signal if need be.
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Randsl Dude
join:2000-08-13
Canada
| Sorry to contradict you, but I "am" a Telus TTV tech and the Shaw cable scenarios I described, are the situation in Calgary...
I'm not sure what area the country your talking about, but it isn't the same here.
If Shaw is running all the inside feeds back out to the demarcation point, on new houses, then they are deliberately preventing anyone, including the home owner, from hooking up their own inside cable runs from the main feed, which they can easily do here in "Calgary". |
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psydfx
join:2002-12-20
Canada
| They always do things different in Alberta.  I'm in Vancouver. And I also install TTV.
Here it is like I said. Everything is pretty secure without a termination screwdriver to open the exterior boxes or keys for the condo cable cabinets.
Owners can request the box removed or opened but most don't realize it.
Seems there's lots of threads about it though on digitalhome as it pisses a lot of people off trying to install satellite services.
»www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthr···?t=81621
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RIPPEDOOROFF
@acanac.com
| Ya I had to hook up the co-ax to my satellite in my Shaw box, outside my house like it is for every house in BC.
Screw calling them I just ripped the door right off the box and just to make sure there are no questions of me stealing cable I cut their network service wire come from the pole and let it hang next to the pole. I own the wire in the wall. Shaw can go screw themselves with this locked box crap. They always put the notch filters on the pole and the only time they put them in the box is when they are underground. They can install a 2nd box as far as I'm concerned.
RANDSL DUDE no need to be smug. We know you are from Alberta and you guys do things your own way but give your brothers in BC a break. |
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myiphoneisbroken
@acanac.com
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said by Randsl Dude  :Sorry to contradict you, but I "am" a Telus TTV tech and the Shaw cable scenarios I described, are the situation in Calgary... which they can easily do here in "Calgary". I "am" really impressed |
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Ikarasu
join:2004-01-09
Port Coquitlam, BC
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| Just like to confirm that in BC all the wires are in Shaw boxes. I live in a new house, and move quite frequently, and it's always been that way. Never knew they did it diff out in AB though, haven't lived there in years...so good to know.
But Shaw isn't too bad about it. They insisted to me that they could only leave the box unlocked for 1 day for the Sat person to hook stuff up, wouldn't leave it open for longer... was a hassle to get a time where they, and expressvu installer could come here at the same time, so finally talked them in leaving it off for a few days till I called and got them to come hook it back up... I never called, and it never got re-locked. But all houses do have the locked boxes where all the wires terminate from, at least in BC. |
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exTelusTVuser000
@ucc-net.ca
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Offhand,
About using the coax in your home, the TTV installer here just broke the shaw box (inside the unit mind you) to use the coax and disconnected the shaw at that point. The condo place I was in formerly ALSO had the lock broken on the 'shaw box' in the unit which had nothing more than a cable splitter in it.
Regarding running it wirelessly. TelusTV connects at a minumum of 7Mbps, your 802.11b is sufficient for bandwidth. However what is not sufficent is the capacity of the wireless router. TelusTV is multicast, when you change the channel it sends a command to change the multicast port and address being broadcasted to the modem, so therefor your router has to support multicast. Second you would be flooding the wireless link (and denying everyone the ability to use that channel) with the 3 megabits per SD channel.
It IS possible, but I have never heard of anyone using it in production as the cost of two routers is 200$ when the cost of the coax adaptors is likely cheaper and/or you can find them on eBay.
Here is what (the telus ones) look like, except the ones I had were in beige:
»mickwest.com/2008/03/24/homepna-···tv-coax/
There are also powerline options which might be a better end-run.
(PS I finally got rid of the TelusTV but not for any issue with telus other than price) |
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