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Re: EPC error
said by joako  :FWIW the "list price" on the dealer invoices is not the true manufacturer list price. What is this ambiguous statement supposed to mean? |
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Hillsdale, NJ | MEaning that the CUSTOMER really doesn't see the REAL price that the dealer pays. |
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joako
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said by 3SGTE :said by joako :FWIW the "list price" on the dealer invoices is not the true manufacturer list price. What is this ambiguous statement supposed to mean? The manufacturer has a "list price" for their parts. When you go to the dealer the price on the invoice marked "list price" is a random number the dealer made up.
E.g. for the key BMW list is $31.89 and the bulb socket $8.18
Dealers *ALWAYS* get parts at prices significantly below list price. They should have no problem turning a profit at those prices... many dealers will actually sell the same parts below list via internet!
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| said by joako :The manufacturer has a "list price" for their parts. When you go to the dealer the price on the invoice marked "list price" is a random number the dealer made up. E.g. for the key BMW list is $31.89 and the bulb socket $8.18 List price is not a "random number the dealer made up". It is a suggested retail price the manufacturer creates.
It will be the same at all dealers.
This is no different than Sears selling a microwave for $100.00. They will have the same price at all stores.
Sears can decide to give you a discount, just as a dealer can.
Sears also pays less than the list price for the goods they sell. That is how business works.
However, you know this, and you are just trolling.
said by joako :Dealers *ALWAYS* get parts at prices significantly below list price. They should have no problem turning a profit at those prices... many dealers will actually sell the same parts below list via internet! Yes, dealers get their parts for less than list price.
Again, that is how business works.
Even a conveniences store pays less for a bag of potato chips than they sell them for.
Please explain how a dealer is going to turn a profit on selling parts for the same price they pay for them?
No, actually - don't bother explaining.
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joako
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| On the dealer invoices it is a random number... the "list price" shown there is not the mfg. list price, this it is a random number. See the invoice I posted above vs actual manufacturer list prices in the text of my post.
What I am saying is the dealer engages in price discrimination ... of course they always turn a profit. No I don't expect them to break even or loose money on a parts sale.
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| said by joako :On the dealer invoices it is a random number... the "list price" shown there is not the mfg. list price, this it is a random number. See the invoice I posted above vs actual manufacturer list prices in the text of my post. Ages ago when I worked in the automotive aftermarket while on layoffs from my factory job, we regularly got new price sheets from vendors on the various lines we carried.
There were several lines on the sheets.. jobber/our cost, several stages of discounted prices (walk-in, dealer, etc) and a list price. List prices were not a random number in our case and were based on a percentage above the lower price. I would be willing to bet that dealer prices are set up in the same fashion, especially now with computers being used.
When a mechanic puts a part on a car, he charges the customer list price... that mark up is part of where the garage makes part of it's operating costs and profit. |
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It would be nic e if you restricted your posts to topics where you actually have intimate knowledge.
A "list price" is nothing more than a suggested retail price. The actual or final charge is determined by the selling dealer (as in any business) and is dependent upon many factors. A larger delaer may be able to sell parts below list price, whereas a smaller dealer may have to charge a percentage above list price.
In the free market system, a business is able to charge whatever they feel is necessary or fair in order to stay in business.
Joe Blow can put brakes, rotors, pads or MAF sensors on for you, but is he insured if you have a problem? What is his warranty? If he scratches your fender while working on the car (a common customer ploy - gouging on the dealer or repair facility) will he paint it or repair it? Does he have a loaner car or can he arrange alternate transportation for you?
What happens if the brake job fails and the vehicle meets an immovable object?
I engage in customer discrimination: when I see a guy like you, I am always too busy. Always too busy to work for an alligator, and people who only have broken cars.
I prefer to work for my customers, people who appreciate what is done, are thankful and cheerfully pay the bill on a prior, agreed-upon price. |
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