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tehflyintwat

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Re: Ethanol blending.

It's a biofuel and it does not decrease your fuel mileage by much if any at all (in theory it can, but at such low blend rates it barely makes a difference), it is mandatory in fuels that are part of the Top Tier program (increasing in number of participants), and it reduces engine emissions compared to the older chemicals that used to be in fuels (most of whom were carcinogens and over time would clog your catalytic) and are now banned from use. It also burns more efficiently. In addition, in the cold winter months it acts as a natural gas line anti-freeze.

Ethanol will soon be mandated by all fuel stations in the US and virtually all Canadian stations already use it. The only exception is high octane "premium" fuel, some of them being advertised as containing no ethanol. One of the reasons why it is not used in high octane fuels is because ethanol is an octane enhancer. Since high octane fuels already contain plenty of octane it is not necessary to add ethanol. But again, this may change in the coming years, and even in premium gasoline they use alcohol-derived components to replace the more harmful chemicals (MTBE) that used to be blended in gasoline.

It should also be noted the pure ethanol fuels cost quite a bit less than gasohol and yet the mileage, with the help of modern technology, is almost the same.


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said by tehflyintwat See Profile :

It's a biofuel and it does not decrease your fuel mileage by much if any at all (in theory it can, but at such low blend rates it barely makes a difference), it is mandatory in fuels that are part of the Top Tier program (increasing in number of participants), and it reduces engine emissions compared to the older chemicals that used to be in fuels (most of whom were carcinogens and over time would clog your catalytic) and are now banned from use. It also burns more efficiently. In addition, in the cold winter months it acts as a natural gas line anti-freeze.

Ethanol will soon be mandated by all fuel stations in the US and virtually all Canadian stations already use it. The only exception is high octane "premium" fuel, some of them being advertised as containing no ethanol. One of the reasons why it is not used in high octane fuels is because ethanol is an octane enhancer. Since high octane fuels already contain plenty of octane it is not necessary to add ethanol. But again, this may change in the coming years, and even in premium gasoline they use alcohol-derived components to replace the more harmful chemicals (MTBE) that used to be blended in gasoline.

It should also be noted the pure ethanol fuels cost quite a bit less than gasohol and yet the mileage, with the help of modern technology, is almost the same.
Kudos on the post. Refreshing to see someone out there knows what the hell they're talking about. The misinformation is running rampant these days.
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mityfowl

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Your wrong. 10% ethanol results in a 10-12% drop in gas milage. This stuff is the biggest scam on earth today except carbon credits.


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said by mityfowl See Profile :

Your wrong. 10% ethanol results in a 10-12% drop in gas milage. This stuff is the biggest scam on earth today except carbon credits.
No, and......no.


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said by mityfowl See Profile :

Your wrong. 10% ethanol results in a 10-12% drop in gas milage. This stuff is the biggest scam on earth today except carbon credits.
No, and......no.
My MPG has gone down. My driving habits have not changed since last year. My car has been maintained and everything.
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misterjda

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I know that we've E10 "Summer Blend" here in Chicago for a very long time. I don't know of anyone with engine problems from it. However, I could understand a slight MPG drop from it. Doesn't E85 do the same thing? So it would make sense that E10 would as well, just not as dramatic (note that I am not a scientist).

Mastermind, what is that you're using to track your MPG?


mityfowl

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TCO I beg you to read this article: »www.caranddriver.com/features/al···_feature
I'm from Illinois and I know how important the corn crop is. I just think that many people are misinformed and the politicians are just ramming this crap down our throats.

And AFTER you read just this 1 article you want to call me out that's cool.


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said by TCO1962 See Profile :

said by mityfowl See Profile :

Your wrong. 10% ethanol results in a 10-12% drop in gas milage. This stuff is the biggest scam on earth today except carbon credits.
No, and......no.
Once again, a great post from you with absolutely NO fact.
Par for the course!
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