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Re: [Tech] Contact ignition vs electronic.
My comment about your cars worth was more concerning its overall condition, not its age. With only 80,000 miles, and if it's in good condition overall, it may be practical to upgrade to electronic ignition, if that's what you would like to do.
If it were my Corolla, I would restore the present ingnition system in the car, especially considering it probably hasn't been maintained at all in its 16 year life.
First of all, oil under the distributer cap is not good. It can cause the mis-fire you've described. The oil can get under there for several different reasons though, and it's difficult to tell you where its coming from without seeing it myself.
I would suggest removing the distributor from the engine, clean it thouroughly with solvent, and replace the "O"-ring seal on the shaft. If there's a gasket on the base of the distributor replace it as well. Replace the distributor cap, points, condenser, spark plug and coil wires and spark plugs. Adjust the air gap on the points and spark plugs to the engines specifications. These things done, your contact point ignition system is as good as new and it doesn't cost much.
I really believe you will be amazed at how much better your engine runs if you just do the above.
I have a '95 Corolla myself that only I drive. Bought it new in December, 1995. It does have factory electronic ignition and it's been completely trouble free. I did change the spark plugs at 60,000 miles just because they were "due". Car has 82,000 miles on it now and I wouldn't get rid of it for anything.
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| sorry, maybe I misunderstood your comment. For me, the car whatever condition it is, is worth whatever someone is willing to give me  . On the other side, the car is in very good condition, a 8 of 10 I would say  minus a few annoyances, like the AC, etc. |
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| said by Angralitux  :...the car whatever condition it is, is worth whatever someone is willing to give me... . Well sure, I understand that. But do you really want to go to the expense and effort of converting to an electronic ignition if you're just going to sell the car? Will your potential buyer pay you more for it?
I know you can buy an electronic ignition kit for older cars with points. The kit comes with a new distributor and the electronic control module box and instructions. It is not difficult to install.
If you are planning on getting used parts from a Toyota with later electronic ignition and CPU and put it into your '92, then I won't even go there. There are so many variables and potential problems and issues that you may encounter. I can't help with that since I've never done a Toyota conversion that way, and I don't know what is compatible from one particular year model to another.
Good luck whatever you decide to do!
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| nahh, I'm not going to sell the car yet. I just feel the need to get the car in good shape. What about this kit you're talking about, can you point to one to see what is about??
I wasn't really planning to do that (conversion) I just wanted to know which I was missing. Mechanics told me they can do the conversion, I was assumming that a tercel, wich has a similar engine as mine, only bigger (3E tercel vs 2E my car), would be the place to look for the necessary parts. BTW; there was version of the engine on my car that had EFI, and so electronic distributor type.
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| said by Angralitux :What about this kit you're talking about, can you point to one to see what is about?? Examples:
Here's one...
Here's another...
And another...
And so on...
said by Angralitux :Mechanics told me they can do the conversion, I was assumming that a tercel, wich has a similar engine as mine, only bigger (3E tercel vs 2E my car), would be the place to look for the necessary parts. BTW; there was version of the engine on my car that had EFI, and so electronic distributor type. thanks! I understand. That may be an easy swap and work out fine, but I just don't know. I have no idea what is and what is not interchangeable between different year Toyotas.
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DO | how interesting... the first one looks like a complete sytem, but, will these work on my car?? I will post pictures of the thing dissasembled as soon as I get to my home. It doesnt seem too complicate thing to do. |
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the links #2 and #3 are the same... after a good look at link #1, I think it seems like it will fit my engine :O |
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wenter99
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| I guess I forgot to copy this one >>> The Missing Link  .
The pictures in those ads are examples. They give you a general idea of what you will get. When you order for your specific year and make of car, they'll send you the correct kit that may or may not look exactly like the picture.
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| For that first one, they list the same item number for vehicles that are clearly not interchangable.
Here it is for a Crown Vic:
»www.jcwhitney.com/ELECTRONIC-IGN···0101.jcw
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| Most, if not all, OEM ignition and emission controls on Toyotas are made by Bosch. Other than that I can't explain discrepencies in the Whitney catalog. I'm just trying to give the OP an idea of what aftermarket stuff may be available for his vehicle...
Terry
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I got your point 3SGTE , the pic is just for ad purposes, is not the exact described.
Ok, what I meant is that this distributor on the picture, is very simmilar to the one on the car. I found this pic, wich I posted a while ago, you can see the locking clips there, and size is simmilar too.
»/r0/download/1···tom).JPG |
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said by wenter99 :Most, if not all, OEM ignition and emission controls on Toyotas are made by Bosch. That is not true.
In a few parts of the world, on a few selected models, Bosch might make some parts.
Denso is by far the largest supplier of electronics to Toyota.
said by wenter99 :Other than that I can't explain discrepencies in the Whitney catalog. I'm just trying to give the OP an idea of what's available to him. Terry And I just wanted to point out to the OP that there is a good chance that distributor won't fit.
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And thanks for explaining, very helpful info posted by you here! |
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The coil is under the cap. |
(Note that this is an electronic one, it does not have the vacuum advance.) |
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said by Angralitux :And thanks for explaining, very helpful info posted by you here! You're welcome Angralitux. It was my pleasure chatting with you!
The links I posted were for reference only. I wasn't even suggesting you buy anything from J.C. Whitney. If you decide to buy a conversion kit, there are probably a thousand other websites out there that sell them.
Now that 3SGTE has come on scene and rescued the thread, perhaps he can answer your original question about retro-fitting the Tercel 3E electronic ignition distributor and components into your '92 Corolla 2E engine. I'm more curious about that.
So long,
Terry |
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do you believe the one in my car has vacuum advance?? I dont see any hose going in there..
The only thing I can see on the distributor itself is a little knob that the manual that came with the car says is to adjust the gas octane. I believe it's for advance or back the timing.
I found this page too:
»www.hot-spark.com/
looks like the :
"Hot-Spark Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit for four-cylinder Bosch vacuum-advance distributors"
may be one that can be fitted to mine. |
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3SGTE
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Based on your picture, it does look like you have vacuum advance. |
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