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Re: Anyone ever heard of Poor Talent and Overhype and OverPriced
said by Nightfall  : Bands should just be selling singles of the best stuff. Which is part & parcel of why the music industry is on the decline. The head cheesedicks at the RIAA absolutely refuse to see that reality and instead cling to the album concept because that's what's made them truckloads of money. It is a textbook 101 example of an industry refusing to accept consumer demand and now they're paying for it and desperately searching for someone (the consumers who else) to blame.
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Nightfall
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| said by major marco :said by Nightfall : Bands should just be selling singles of the best stuff. Which is part & parcel of why the music industry is on the decline. The head cheesedicks at the RIAA absolutely refuse to see that reality and instead cling to the album concept because that's what's made them truckloads of money. It is a textbook 101 example of an industry refusing to accept consumer demand and now they're paying for it and desperately searching for someone (the consumers who else) to blame. I agree. However, in the end, 2 wrongs don't make a right. The rampant copyright infringement going on is not the answer. A boycott of the product is. Especially if it is like the OP says and is a crap product. The problem is that it isn't. People love the music, especially if the price is free. |
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| said by Nightfall : 2 wrongs don't make a right. The rampant copyright infringement going on is not the answer. A boycott of the product is. Which is a beautiful theory, but this is the market we're talking about, and, the market has ways of correcting itself. We are seing that consumers will choose convenience and risk alleged copyright infringment if necessary in order to satisfy demand. Boycotting never resolves anything. Companies laugh at boycotts. There is no leverage whatSOever over them to change their outdated business model. |
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Nightfall
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| said by SilverSurfer :said by Nightfall : 2 wrongs don't make a right. The rampant copyright infringement going on is not the answer. A boycott of the product is. Which is a beautiful theory, but this is the market we're talking about, and, the market has ways of correcting itself. We are seing that consumers will choose convenience and risk alleged copyright infringment if necessary in order to satisfy demand. Boycotting never resolves anything. Companies laugh at boycotts. There is no leverage whatSOever over them to change their outdated business model. Thats because the boycotts are done half assed. If the product is that crappy, then it should be easy to boycott it. Instead, we have a bunch of two faced liars who say the music on the radio is nothing but crap....but they freely share files anyway.
Customers choose convenience and a free product, and its a easy choice to make. In my opinion, not the right choice, but thats just what I believe. |
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said by Nightfall :Customers choose convenience [...] I would agree with you on this count because it is about convenience, a demand the record companies have been ignoring since 1999. As to your allegations of two faced liars saying one thing and doing something completely different, I would also add freedom from DRM. The P2P clients are just filling consumer demands -convenience + DRM-free music- two items the RIAA has chosen and continues to ignore to its own financial peril. |
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| said by SilverSurfer :said by Nightfall :Customers choose convenience [...] I would agree with you on this count because it is about convenience, a demand the record companies have been ignoring since 1999. As to your allegations of two faced liars saying one thing and doing something completely different, I would also add freedom from DRM. The P2P clients are just filling consumer demands -convenience + DRM-free music- two items the RIAA has chosen and continues to ignore to its own financial peril. DRM really has very little do with it. In a recent study as to why people pirate, over 70% said it was about saving money. Convenience is a bigger factor than DRM at least in my mind.
You are right though, the RIAA has chosen and continues to ignore customer demands. Imagine what would have happened if they would have embraced Shawn Fanning and Napster. What if they made Napster a pay service, charged everyone .25 cents a song (no DRM and various bitrates to choose from) for the entire RIAA catalog with no DRM. IMHO, music copyright infringement wouldn't be a big issue. Instead, they fought it tooth and nail. |
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| said by Nightfall : Imagine what would have happened if they would have embraced Shawn Fanning and Napster. What if they made Napster a pay service, charged everyone .25 cents a song (no DRM and various bitrates to choose from) for the entire RIAA catalog with no DRM. IMHO, music copyright infringement wouldn't be a big issue. Instead, they fought it tooth and nail. Absolutely. The RIAA not only missed that gravy train, but derailed it permanently. |
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