TheRul
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Re: US Supreme Court says individuals have right to own guns
said by dogma  :Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. I am sorry Mr. Soylent Green, you died a little while ago... 
As a non gun owner, I think this is a great ruling. On the other hand, I think the right of owning a gun should come with the responsibility to 1. register their guns (when I buy my Howitzer I will register it and place it proudly on my front yard for all of my daughters dates to see) and 2. prove that they know how and when to use them and store them.
I see this like I see parenthood, some people really should not be parents, but, if they were educated some on it, they could still fail, the children would still become serial killers, but I would not have any guilt about it.  |
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CatSnak
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| I agree about registering the guns. My pistols are registerd but my rifles aren't (I've had them for years before I moved to CA). It's kind of hard though to conceal a rifle.  And when I am carring either of my pistols they are always in plain site unless being properly transported (in a locked case out of reach) in my truck.
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nirvansk815
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| said by CatSnak :I agree about registering the guns. My pistols are registered but my rifles aren't (I've had them for years before I moved to CA). It's kind of hard though to conceal a rifle. And when I am carrying either of my pistols they are always in plain site unless being properly transported (in a locked case out of reach) in my truck. I find this topic very interesting because I know its roots are far reaching, but admittedly I am completely ignorant to the current gun laws in California or in the nation for that matter. I never realized one was allowed to carry guns around in public. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can point me in the right direction.
BTW, what kind of rifle do you have? The only guns I've used are a bb gun, a .22 rifle, a 10 gauge shot gun, and a 12 gauge shot gun. Naturally, I ended up shooting myself in the hand with the bb gun because:
1.) A bug landed on my leg
2.) It was the hand gun variety
and after pushing the bug off my leg I went to shoot not realizing my thumb was over the end:( After a few stitches it was all better though:)
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said by TheRul :said by dogma :Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. ...As a non gun owner, I think this is a great ruling. On the other hand, I think the right of owning a gun should come with the responsibility to 1. register their guns (when I buy my Howitzer I will register it and place it proudly on my front yard for all of my daughters dates to see) and 2. prove that they know how and when to use them and store them. I see this like I see parenthood... Yet another database that holds millions of records? Our reliance on computers is getting deeper by the second. Not that it is necessarily a bad thing, but what would happen if this was hacked and records changed? Then it would be just a waste of storage space in some datacenter somewhere.
How would one show proof of your 'gun knowledge'? It sounds great in theory, but I can't think of any practical and meaningful ways to implement it.
I agree with your views on parenthood... it seems smart, educated, and loving parents are hard to come by these days.
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TheRul
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| said by nirvansk815 :said by TheRul :said by dogma :Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. ...As a non gun owner, I think this is a great ruling. On the other hand, I think the right of owning a gun should come with the responsibility to 1. register their guns (when I buy my Howitzer I will register it and place it proudly on my front yard for all of my daughters dates to see) and 2. prove that they know how and when to use them and store them. I see this like I see parenthood... Yet another database that holds millions of records? Our reliance on computers is getting deeper by the second. Not that it is necessarily a bad thing, but what would happen if this was hacked and records changed? Then it would be just a waste of storage space in some datacenter somewhere. How would one show proof of your 'gun knowledge'? It sounds great in theory, but I can't think of any practical and meaningful ways to implement it. I agree with your views on parenthood... it seems smart, educated, and loving parents are hard to come by these days. We should already have that database. The current one that holds the gun registration data now...
As for the gun knowledge, it could be done in Community Colleges. they are run by the state, but seperate from idiots who run it. And I say let the NRA handle the instruction. They know more about how to handle and store guns, and from what I can tell, the NRA would not let someone "slide" on the gun tests. |
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TheRul
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said by nirvansk815 :I agree with your views on parenthood... it seems smart, educated, and loving parents are hard to come by these days. They have always been rare. It is surprising that the human race has made it as far as we have. |
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CatSnak
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You can open carry just about anywhere but I wouldn't recommend doing it downtown or at the mall or someplace like that. I wear mine almost always at the ranch and when riding the horses unless we are riding in an area such as a county park that strickly prohibits firearms.
My rifles:
Ruger 10-22 semi auto
Mauser 6.5x55 Swedish bolt action
12 gauge bolt action shot gun
Hand guns:
Chinese Tokarav 9mm
A. Uberti Cattleman (Colt replica) .45 revolver www.uberti.com
Crossman 1845 .177 cal revolver (bb gun)
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MotherNature
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| said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story.
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CatSnak
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| said by MotherNature :said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story. True and also why I don't recommend carrying downtown or in general public areas.
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The Duck
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said by MotherNature :said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story. Not quite right. Read here: »www.californiaopencarry.org/ |
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MotherNature
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| said by The Duck :said by MotherNature :said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story. Not quite right. Read here: » www.californiaopencarry.org/ I admit I have a tendency to get glassy eyed with boredom when reading statutes and laws, but I did manage to notice the following:
No permit or license to purchase, own, possess, keep, or carry, either openly or concealed, shall be required of any citizen of the United States or legal resident over the age of 18 years who resides or is temporarily within this state … to purchase, own, possess, keep, or carry, either openly or concealed, a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person within the citizen's or legal resident's place of residence, place of business, or on private property owned or lawfully possessed by the citizen or legal resident.
Isn't that basically what I said a few posts upthread?
EDIT: Lifted from here, Section 12026: »www.californiaopencarry.org/Cali···arry.pdf
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The Duck
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| Sorry, I should have also included this:»opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=2487.
Please take a look at »www.californiaopencarry.org/ to get more detail. You will also find more info at »www.calguns.net. Every now and again groups of guys will meet up somewhere publicly for open carry gatherings, they will sometimes post details there. |
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