dogma
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Re: US Supreme Court says individuals have right to own guns
The SCOTUS reaffirmed the right for individuals to own firearms. Seems like it maintains States rights to regulate firearms...just not ban them altogether like the D.of C. did.
Here in California, Mayor Vi wants to ban .50-caliber & .45-caliber, military-style ammunition; licensing ammunition vendors; requiring anyone making ammunition purchases to do so in person; requiring gun-store owners to make regular gun inventories and report to local law enforcement; and outlawing installation of secret gun compartments in vehicles. All in an effort to battle gangs.
Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. |
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MotherNature
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| And as we all know, gang members are always the first to abide by these feel-good laws put in place by buffoons like Mayor Mechista-Reconquista.
That's why so many of them own fully automatic weapons. Y'know, illegal fully automatic weapons that only the popo can have in this State.
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said by dogma  :Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. I am sorry Mr. Soylent Green, you died a little while ago... 
As a non gun owner, I think this is a great ruling. On the other hand, I think the right of owning a gun should come with the responsibility to 1. register their guns (when I buy my Howitzer I will register it and place it proudly on my front yard for all of my daughters dates to see) and 2. prove that they know how and when to use them and store them.
I see this like I see parenthood, some people really should not be parents, but, if they were educated some on it, they could still fail, the children would still become serial killers, but I would not have any guilt about it.  |
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CatSnak
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| I agree about registering the guns. My pistols are registerd but my rifles aren't (I've had them for years before I moved to CA). It's kind of hard though to conceal a rifle.  And when I am carring either of my pistols they are always in plain site unless being properly transported (in a locked case out of reach) in my truck.
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nirvansk815
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| said by CatSnak :I agree about registering the guns. My pistols are registered but my rifles aren't (I've had them for years before I moved to CA). It's kind of hard though to conceal a rifle. And when I am carrying either of my pistols they are always in plain site unless being properly transported (in a locked case out of reach) in my truck. I find this topic very interesting because I know its roots are far reaching, but admittedly I am completely ignorant to the current gun laws in California or in the nation for that matter. I never realized one was allowed to carry guns around in public. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can point me in the right direction.
BTW, what kind of rifle do you have? The only guns I've used are a bb gun, a .22 rifle, a 10 gauge shot gun, and a 12 gauge shot gun. Naturally, I ended up shooting myself in the hand with the bb gun because:
1.) A bug landed on my leg
2.) It was the hand gun variety
and after pushing the bug off my leg I went to shoot not realizing my thumb was over the end:( After a few stitches it was all better though:)
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said by dogma :The SCOTUS reaffirmed the right for individuals to own firearms. Seems like it maintains States rights to regulate firearms...just not ban them altogether like the D.of C. did. Here in California, Mayor Vi wants to ban .50-caliber & .45-caliber, military-style ammunition; licensing ammunition vendors; requiring anyone making ammunition purchases to do so in person; requiring gun-store owners to make regular gun inventories and report to local law enforcement; and outlawing installation of secret gun compartments in vehicles. All in an effort to battle gangs. Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. IMO, you can't get rid of gangs, just like you can't get rid of terrorist; people will be people and no idea/law/ or person(s)will ever change that. There are however, influences of perceptions but that's a different can of worms. Now, I can see some benefit to buying ammunition in person because it would help keep it harder for children to buy it, but at the same time if parenting is bad at home it really wouldn't make a difference anyway. BTW, what the heck is military style ammo, and do you have any pics of your Sig?
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nirvansk815
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said by TheRul :said by dogma :Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. ...As a non gun owner, I think this is a great ruling. On the other hand, I think the right of owning a gun should come with the responsibility to 1. register their guns (when I buy my Howitzer I will register it and place it proudly on my front yard for all of my daughters dates to see) and 2. prove that they know how and when to use them and store them. I see this like I see parenthood... Yet another database that holds millions of records? Our reliance on computers is getting deeper by the second. Not that it is necessarily a bad thing, but what would happen if this was hacked and records changed? Then it would be just a waste of storage space in some datacenter somewhere.
How would one show proof of your 'gun knowledge'? It sounds great in theory, but I can't think of any practical and meaningful ways to implement it.
I agree with your views on parenthood... it seems smart, educated, and loving parents are hard to come by these days.
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| said by nirvansk815 :said by TheRul :said by dogma :Well, they can have my Sig Sauer, when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. ...As a non gun owner, I think this is a great ruling. On the other hand, I think the right of owning a gun should come with the responsibility to 1. register their guns (when I buy my Howitzer I will register it and place it proudly on my front yard for all of my daughters dates to see) and 2. prove that they know how and when to use them and store them. I see this like I see parenthood... Yet another database that holds millions of records? Our reliance on computers is getting deeper by the second. Not that it is necessarily a bad thing, but what would happen if this was hacked and records changed? Then it would be just a waste of storage space in some datacenter somewhere. How would one show proof of your 'gun knowledge'? It sounds great in theory, but I can't think of any practical and meaningful ways to implement it. I agree with your views on parenthood... it seems smart, educated, and loving parents are hard to come by these days. We should already have that database. The current one that holds the gun registration data now...
As for the gun knowledge, it could be done in Community Colleges. they are run by the state, but seperate from idiots who run it. And I say let the NRA handle the instruction. They know more about how to handle and store guns, and from what I can tell, the NRA would not let someone "slide" on the gun tests. |
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said by nirvansk815 :I agree with your views on parenthood... it seems smart, educated, and loving parents are hard to come by these days. They have always been rare. It is surprising that the human race has made it as far as we have. |
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CatSnak
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You can open carry just about anywhere but I wouldn't recommend doing it downtown or at the mall or someplace like that. I wear mine almost always at the ranch and when riding the horses unless we are riding in an area such as a county park that strickly prohibits firearms.
My rifles:
Ruger 10-22 semi auto
Mauser 6.5x55 Swedish bolt action
12 gauge bolt action shot gun
Hand guns:
Chinese Tokarav 9mm
A. Uberti Cattleman (Colt replica) .45 revolver www.uberti.com
Crossman 1845 .177 cal revolver (bb gun)
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MotherNature
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| said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story.
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dogma
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No pics.
But it's a P226 DAK 9mm like this:
»www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCa···uctid=89
It had been modified with the NATO Dark Earth Combat finish, which makes it look just like this:
»lundestudio.com/thumbnail/p220-c···full.jpg
With respect to training, I support full law enforcement based training like: »www.nrahq.org/law/training/training.asp (although I am not a big fan of the NRA)
for a license to carry concealed or open. |
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MotherNature
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So next comes the 14th Amendment law suits to force the commissars to choose a) disarm judges as well as off duty and retired police, or b) institute a shall issue law to bring us all equal protection/rights. Either way finally brings an end to a discriminatory system that places a higher value on the lives of the politically connected than it places on the lives of us peons. This wasn't possible as long as the 9th Circus refused to recognize any right to keep and bare arms. Now that the individual right is affirmed it must be applied equally.
Since the police unions will never allow their minions on the legislature to disarm them shall issue will likely come to the PRK within just a few years. I'm sure ylen is already packing for a move to the UK where he will feel safe.
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said by MotherNature :said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story. True and also why I don't recommend carrying downtown or in general public areas.
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dogma
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I don't know if you recall from about 4-5 years ago, but it was upon YOUR recommendation that I traded a 7.62mm semi-auto for a Glock-20/10mm. Which I later traded for this. |
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MotherNature
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dogma
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| The Sig is smaller, much lighter & 10mm ammo was expensive.
Besides, at the time, a "Glock" carried a certain stigma of sorts.
I know you mentioned it a while back, but which sidearm(s) do you own? Or are you only using the "Lupara"? |
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MotherNature
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| I divided up all my guns between the boys contingent upon each of them securing a quality gun safe firmly bolted to the floor.
That requirement was met, and my entire collection is now out of my hands. All I kept was a short pump 12ga.
Now they're all trying to lay claim on various pieces from my collection of antique cast iron cookware, most of which are still in regular service in my kitchen.
Buzzards.
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said by MotherNature :said by CatSnak :You can open carry just about anywhere Subject to local regulations, and there ain't many cities/towns/whatever that allow open carry. On private property or out in the middle of nowhere, different story. Not quite right. Read here: »www.californiaopencarry.org/ |
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