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Struggling with GIC (Gaming Identity Crisis)

First, a little history.

I have been playing PC games for years, since back in the late 80s when games like Ultima and Wizardry were out. For years I have kept up with my computer upgrade wise and playing the most fun games out there.

However, something has happened as of about 3 months ago that I can't explain. My drive to play games has went into the crapper for the most part.

I used to play WoW and I found that fun, but I dropped out of it as of about 2 months ago. The thought of getting back into it is just not appealing as it doesn't fit my PVP style of playing. Just not enough to do in the game anymore.

Other multiplayer games like Battlefield 2 and TF2 are fun, but even those games are not as engaging as they once were. BF2 tactical combat is a blast but I can only take so much. TF2 is fun in spurts, but I can't stand playing for a long period of time.

I have gaming consoles like the PS3 which provide entertainment as well. Rock Band and GTAIV are fun to play, but once again, in spurts.

Maybe the issue is that before, I could play WoW for hours and hours on end. Then I could play BF2 for 3-4 hours at a time. Now, it seems that no game can hold my attention for more than 45 minutes if I am lucky. So I find myself going from console to PC, dialing up games to play on my spare time trying to figure out what I want to do.

Maybe I am just reaching a certain age where gaming is not as fun as it used to be or I am being too picky about my games.
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This has happened to me also. Just take a few weeks off and do other things. Watch movies, read a book, invent the next generation paper clip, etc. Eventually you'll start to miss gaming again and will load up some random game and be sucked back in again. Or take time off and wait to start playing again when a new game comes out like Star Wars: Force Unleashed.

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said by winterforge See Profile :

This has happened to me also. Just take a few weeks off and do other things. Watch movies, read a book, invent the next generation paper clip, etc. Eventually you'll start to miss gaming again and will load up some random game and be sucked back in again. Or take time off and wait to start playing again when a new game comes out like Star Wars: Force Unleashed.
Just seems that I am disappointed with gaming as a whole right now. Maybe you are right and I have hit a funk so to speak. The only game that is even remotely interesting right now is EvE Online, but I am not motivated right now to learn more about it. The learning curve is steep and every day is a new learning experience in that game.

I logged into my guilds wow vent yesterday and talked with some friends I haven't talked to in months. It was good to chat with them, but the idea of getting back in that game was just painful. So its obvious the human aspect isn't something I am missing that much. Its the games themselves thats turning me off.

You are right, maybe go back to movies and playing the Wii until something new comes about. A break may do me good. Maybe I will play more hockey.

I certainly hope I am not becoming disinterested in gaming as I get older. I just turned 36 yesterday, and I can remember just like it was yesterday when I stopped playing with my toys when I was a kid. I was a big transformers geek, and the day when I just couldn't play with them anymore really was a stark realization that I was getting too old. Today, it feels that the same thing is happening with video games.
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Haha, I doubt its the age thing. Im almost 35 and just quit raiding in WOW last month and started playing AOC. I raided in EQ1 for 4 years, then played SWG hard core for 2.5, then played WOW since beta. I think its just that you dont have a game that excites you, for me AOC took over for WOW and when AOC came out I was ready to leave WOW, I was bored with it. Why dont you look at Warhammer online or even Stargate Worlds Online as possible options coming out later this year. I think you just need to find a game you like and enjoy again, the down side is that may be hard to find.

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said by Shatter See Profile :

Haha, I doubt its the age thing. Im almost 35 and just quit raiding in WOW last month and started playing AOC. I raided in EQ1 for 4 years, then played SWG hard core for 2.5, then played WOW since beta. I think its just that you dont have a game that excites you, for me AOC took over for WOW and when AOC came out I was ready to leave WOW, I was bored with it. Why dont you look at Warhammer online or even Stargate Worlds Online as possible options coming out later this year. I think you just need to find a game you like and enjoy again, the down side is that may be hard to find.
AOC was interesting, but the grind kinda killed it for me. I really didn't feel like grinding again so thats why I stopped playing AOC. I figured I would wait until I saw what the end game was like.

Glad to hear I am not the only one who got bored of WoW. I am ready for Warhammer Online to come out but that is a ways off.

Finding a game that excites me again is probably what I need. Maybe I am forcing myself into gaming so to speak. Thanks for your input.

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I'm in the exact same situation. I quit playing WoW in January after about a year and a half of playing. Since then I tried a few games, Oblivion, STALKER, Portal. I just don't find them interesting enough. I just play them because I have nothing better to do. Could it be the age? I'm also 35, 35 and a half actually. My last hope is Spore
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There is a such thing as " outside "
Whats that?
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its people like you who have been around for a day or two whos opinion matters and holds weight to some of us noobies . your many years of experience means " been there done that " to alot of the games and with todays industry most games are becoming cookie cutters of another your bored with it , so how about trying to make the games ? i hear there are alot of mods out there ? why not try that .

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There is a such thing as " outside "
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and then when you go out you'll realize how much it sucks than you'll get back to games !! ( shame on you age doesnt matter sounds like you need a challenge !! )

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WOW was probably the easiest MMO for me to quit of all the ones Ive played. The game has been turned into a childs game and even end game raiding isnt worth it anymore cause you can just badge your way to better gear for less time. PvP isnt about skill, its just time = gear and arenas are the dumbest idea for an MMO. I dunno, the whole game is watered down now that I cant justify putting any time into it anymore.

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said by Shatter See Profile :

WOW was probably the easiest MMO for me to quit of all the ones Ive played. The game has been turned into a childs game and even end game raiding isnt worth it anymore cause you can just badge your way to better gear for less time. PvP isnt about skill, its just time = gear and arenas are the dumbest idea for an MMO. I dunno, the whole game is watered down now that I cant justify putting any time into it anymore.
That was my complaint as well. The leveling part of the game was fun. The end game content is lacking. They have made no real improvement to the PVP system. No additional battlegrounds for instance. The world really doesn't change. Doing the same in game content and raiding the same things over and over again was just too repetitive.

The straw that broke the camels back was the change to S4 arena. I had a group of scrubs we would PVP with and arena with. These guys were friends, but we would have fun playing together. It would take us weeks just to get one piece of PVP gear. With the changes, we wouldn't be able to get 3/4 of the gear because we were just playing for fun. On top of that, we would get matched up against groups that had full S4 that would just obliterate us. Meh....

I am glad I am not playing that game.

However, I do miss the interaction with people I met in game. Thats the only thing however.

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i go through what i like to call gaming cycles. i figure about every 6 months i grow tired of gaming for a few months, so i play the minimum possible (raids when i played MMO, scrims/matches when playing FPS games) while spending most of my time doing other things (both on and off my PC)

i also go through game type cycles. i'll have an RPG craze for a half year, then completely lose interest and go back to FPS (my prefered/main game genre). then half a year later i'll go to RTS or RPG again for a few months, then back to FPS for a while.

by cycles i dont mean some new game comes out so i play it until i get bored. i'll wake up one day with no interest to play my current games whatsoever, while finding another type much more fun.
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It's definitely not an age thing. My friends and I have been gaming since the 80s too, and I'm the youngest at 39 - by a good way, most are well into their 40s and fast approaching 50.

None of us has lost our desire to play good games.

But I have noticed something else. Burn out. I've seen this happen to people in my old WoW guild, and it didn't matter what their background was, how old they were, what real life commitments they had. Too much of something, even if that something is fun, can burn you out.

The solution is simply to take a break for a few weeks or months. When you come back, you find even old games are fresh because you no longer go through the mechanical motions. You actually take time to enjoy them again.

For WoW I recommend playing opposite factions after a break, and getting a few of your old guildees to do the same. If you haven't played Horde or Alliance, leveling becomes fresh again. Creating a small PvP guild for the other side is fun, and stopping to gear up at 19, 29, 39, 49, 59 means you get a break from the grind.

We just spend a week at those levels getting the gear we need for the next 10, and then move on. Doing Horde instances has been great, and I'm actually enjoying WoW like I did when I first picked it up.

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said by Forlin See Profile :

It's definitely not an age thing. My friends and I have been gaming since the 80s too, and I'm the youngest at 39 - by a good way, most are well into their 40s and fast approaching 50.

None of us has lost our desire to play good games.

But I have noticed something else. Burn out. I've seen this happen to people in my old WoW guild, and it didn't matter what their background was, how old they were, what real life commitments they had. Too much of something, even if that something is fun, can burn you out.

The solution is simply to take a break for a few weeks or months. When you come back, you find even old games are fresh because you no longer go through the mechanical motions. You actually take time to enjoy them again.

For WoW I recommend playing opposite factions after a break, and getting a few of your old guildees to do the same. If you haven't played Horde or Alliance, leveling becomes fresh again. Creating a small PvP guild for the other side is fun, and stopping to gear up at 19, 29, 39, 49, 59 means you get a break from the grind.

We just spend a week at those levels getting the gear we need for the next 10, and then move on. Doing Horde instances has been great, and I'm actually enjoying WoW like I did when I first picked it up.
I have played both factions to 70 multiple times. I have 2 70 horde and 2 70 alliance. I started playing when it first came out. I took a break in November of 2006 and started back up in April of 2007. I played up until about 2 months ago. Point is that I have come back to the game after a break and maybe I will do that again. Maybe I won't.

As of right now, WoW is dead to me. I am playing EvE a little here and there and having fun with that.

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It could just be age, but maybe you're depressed?

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said by Phil See Profile :

It could just be age, but maybe you're depressed?
Nah, its not depression. I enjoy playing hockey, spending time with my wife, relaxing, cooking, etc. I really have a strong desire to exercise a little more so I am going to do that in the next month or so. If I was depressed, I think I would be a lot more down than I am.

I am just disappointed with video games right now. None of them can hold my attention for long. I have discovered that MAME is very interesting to me so I am playing a lot of retro games right now.

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Well I find your topic interesting as I am in the same boat as you. Lately the only game I've been playing is TF2 which I can play anywhere from 30 minutes to 1-2 hours. When I do play for longer than an hour it is usually because I'm playing on a fun, relaxing server with other mature players.

Maybe get involved with other players your age (it's not so much age as it is maturity level)?

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said by Phil See Profile :

Well I find your topic interesting as I am in the same boat as you. Lately the only game I've been playing is TF2 which I can play anywhere from 30 minutes to 1-2 hours. When I do play for longer than an hour it is usually because I'm playing on a fun, relaxing server with other mature players.

Maybe get involved with other players your age (it's not so much age as it is maturity level)?
That may very well it. A level of maturity and relaxation is always fun for me. Overall though, its the games themselves. TF2 is fun for me for about 30 minutes. Same with most games. After that though, it just loses its luster. I have tried other games like GTAIV, and that can hold me for about 45 minutes or so, then I am ready for something else. I miss the days where I could start a game up and play for hours on end. WoW was big on that, but I also did that with games like F.E.A.R., Half Life, and Bioshock.

I am hoping this is just a phase I am in right now.

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PlanetSide might be worth a look. I really, really enjoyed it for awhile.

MMO FPS.

I'm waiting for the next blockbuster game before I game again.

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PlanetSide might be worth a look. I really, really enjoyed it for awhile.

MMO FPS.

I'm waiting for the next blockbuster game before I game again.
I was a long time player of planetside for years. I wish another MMO FPS came out that was like Battlefield 2. Ah well, but I digress.

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Well here's a funny thing for me: I was one of those dumb-a$$es that played WAY too much and lost jobs, money, etc. to it. So it got to the point where I was FORCED to quit for a while, and to be honest ... it was what I needed.

I got a much-needed "vacation" from something I only slightly realized was burning me out.

Then I ummm ... deleted, yeah, that's what I did ... two of my 70s ... and 2 of my friends suddenly had a 70 warrior and 70 mage... *ahem*.

After all that and a month's or so of "vacation" I played for a while after that only occasionally (once a week or thereabouts).

Then I volunteered to be activated for the Navy and figured I wouldn't have the time or desire to play again so I let my account activation expire. During our training phase there was more downtime then I thought for, so I bought a laptop and started up again.

I didn't realize how badly I missed it all, so now I'm in Kuwait and addicted again. So, start doing all those things you never thought much on during your addiction, forget about WoW, and if you get back in you get back in... If not, then your "new life" is for you!

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Yea, your overdosing on the videa games... same thing happens to me. Kind of... I got this thing for UT2k4, and can play that shit religiously for hours on end, even today. Aside from that, too much Assassins Creed, GTA 4, Halo 3 combo can drive you away from games. Take a break, and you'll want to start playing again. OR find other games you usually don't play, like RPG's and puzzle games. They'll wet your appetite again. I suggest firing up a Final Fantasy game here and there to keep your game logic on the upside; great games to unwind with since theres lots of reading/listening and non-interactive parts.

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I also have the same thing. I got bored of WoW soon after AQ came out. Got back when BC came out but found out nothing really changed except the new talents (which was again, more of the same). I soon quit WoW once again after about 2 months of playing BC. BF2, TF2 and WC3 are fun when lanning with people but I don't really play them alone.

I think what happened is gamers like us who've seen everything look for something very unique every time a game comes out. Don't forget playing a game is entertainment as well. Like movies, you can only watch and interact with that until you lose interest.
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Same thing happened to me, I'm 36. I haven't been all that interested in games for a couple of years now. I keep buying them thinking I'm going to like it, play it once, then never again. I think Starcraft 2 might get me playing again though.

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I've been through the same crisis Nightfall. Over a year ago I got rid of my WoW account, a 70 Human Lock, 60 Dwarf Hunter, and a 70 Cow Hunter. Got rid of it as in won't be getting it back... so I was pretty devoted at quiting the game.

I moved on to playing NavyField for about a year then got burnt on that game as well. I jumped around playing CSS, DOD:S, Raven Shield, BF2, Arma, and CoD4. Of all those games I would play in small spurts of an hour or so then get bored.

To me, it seems nothing really new and inspiring has came out. They are rehashed games that we have already played with a different skin. CoD4 single player was fun, I actually played through that but it only last a whopping 6+ hours

My buddies recently got me back into WoW. So here I am with a fresh new account playing a character I haven't played before, a UD Rogue. So far I'm at 48 and stopped to PVP in the 40-49 bracket and I'm having a blast. So for now, WoW has sparked interest again.

Not to sure if I'm looking forward to Warhammer... don't think I would want to do the level grind again, plus it doesn't have a stealth class which I find I really enjoy now.

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I've been through the same crisis Nightfall. Over a year ago I got rid of my WoW account, a 70 Human Lock, 60 Dwarf Hunter, and a 70 Cow Hunter. Got rid of it as in won't be getting it back... so I was pretty devoted at quiting the game.

I moved on to playing NavyField for about a year then got burnt on that game as well. I jumped around playing CSS, DOD:S, Raven Shield, BF2, Arma, and CoD4. Of all those games I would play in small spurts of an hour or so then get bored.

To me, it seems nothing really new and inspiring has came out. They are rehashed games that we have already played with a different skin. CoD4 single player was fun, I actually played through that but it only last a whopping 6+ hours

My buddies recently got me back into WoW. So here I am with a fresh new account playing a character I haven't played before, a UD Rogue. So far I'm at 48 and stopped to PVP in the 40-49 bracket and I'm having a blast. So for now, WoW has sparked interest again.

Not to sure if I'm looking forward to Warhammer... don't think I would want to do the level grind again, plus it doesn't have a stealth class which I find I really enjoy now.
My WoW account is in limbo right now. I did have thoughts on selling it, but I am going to keep it and call it good. I left the game back in November of 2005 and came back in April of 2006. Will I do the same thing again after leaving over 2 months ago? Maybe. Right now I am enjoying the fact that I don't have to do any of the end game crap right now. I devoted a lot of time and energy to raiding at first, and while it was fun, spending 5 hours a night 3-4 nights a week was just too much. Part time raiders don't get any gear at all, so I ditched that after a while. PVP was a little nicer, but I just did it for fun and with the new PR requirements for arena gear, I wouldn't get that much.

I hit the same thing back in the day where I got tired of the grind and started my account back up with a new faction. I might do the same thing again down the road.

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Sounds like you focus on MMO and RPG a lot. Could it be that you may enjoy a solid RTS as a change of pace? I thoroughly loved Rome:Total War, although it is older. There's always Medieval TW:2, World In Conflict, or Company of Heroes. Dawn of War if you like fantasy-based. I find that I genuinely enjoy RTS a lot more as I get older. FPS is fun, but its short-lived for me. Never did MMO, and have yet to truly immerse myself in RPG.

Another thing is, I don't have enough to time to game as much as I want, so that actually keeps me hungry.

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said by Edge1 See Profile :

Sounds like you focus on MMO and RPG a lot. Could it be that you may enjoy a solid RTS as a change of pace? I thoroughly loved Rome:Total War, although it is older. There's always Medieval TW:2, World In Conflict, or Company of Heroes. Dawn of War if you like fantasy-based. I find that I genuinely enjoy RTS a lot more as I get older. FPS is fun, but its short-lived for me. Never did MMO, and have yet to truly immerse myself in RPG.

Another thing is, I don't have enough to time to game as much as I want, so that actually keeps me hungry.
I don't RPG at all actually. MMO I used to with WoW, so maybe you could consider WoW to be an RPG as well. As for a solid RTS, I really enjoyed Dawn of War and Company of Heroes. Maybe it is time to reinstall DoW again. The only bummer is that I can't compete with other players online very well. They just know the game inside out and backwards and I don't have the thirst to compete online anymore.

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Ah, I see. Played them already. I'm outta ideas, short of just getting away from it a bit, then coming back when the time feels "right".

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said by Nightfall See Profile :

As for a solid RTS, I really enjoyed Dawn of War and Company of Heroes. Maybe it is time to reinstall DoW again. The only bummer is that I can't compete with other players online very well. They just know the game inside out and backwards and I don't have the thirst to compete online anymore.
I have some friends that I play RTS games with. We co-op against the computer over the internet (talking via Ventrilo), this allows for differences in player skill levels (people will ask for help when they need it) and we can adjust the computer difficulty to where everyone can be challenged. (We do this at most a couple of times a week for a couple of hours at a time.)

I have no idea how to fix GIC though.
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If you want a truly memorable PC game experience I would suggest STALKER (provided you dont hit any bugs) and Mass Effect. Company of Heroes is probably the best RTS out there, in all honesty I never got really into it simply because the WWII setting has worn me down at this point, but the gameplay is just awesome and truly innovative for the RTS genre, had it been a modern combat or sci-fi setting CoH would probably be among my top 5 favorite games of all time. If you enjoy dark humour and can dont mind the fact that it looks like a kids game at first glance I would give Psychonauts a try as it is brilliantly written and executed and quite hilarious.
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If you want a truly memorable PC game experience I would suggest STALKER (provided you dont hit any bugs) and Mass Effect. Company of Heroes is probably the best RTS out there, in all honesty I never got really into it simply because the WWII setting has worn me down at this point, but the gameplay is just awesome and truly innovative for the RTS genre, had it been a modern combat or sci-fi setting CoH would probably be among my top 5 favorite games of all time. If you enjoy dark humour and can dont mind the fact that it looks like a kids game at first glance I would give Psychonauts a try as it is brilliantly written and executed and quite hilarious.
Have you tried Dawn of War? It's basically a Sci-Fi COH.

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said by beatsnpieces See Profile :

If you want a truly memorable PC game experience I would suggest STALKER (provided you dont hit any bugs) and Mass Effect. Company of Heroes is probably the best RTS out there, in all honesty I never got really into it simply because the WWII setting has worn me down at this point, but the gameplay is just awesome and truly innovative for the RTS genre, had it been a modern combat or sci-fi setting CoH would probably be among my top 5 favorite games of all time. If you enjoy dark humour and can dont mind the fact that it looks like a kids game at first glance I would give Psychonauts a try as it is brilliantly written and executed and quite hilarious.
Have you tried Dawn of War? It's basically a Sci-Fi COH.
:O Actually I haven't, but thanks to you I now intend to do so. Cheers!

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I want to say thanks to everyone who offered their advice and help. I have went the route of reinstalling my Dawn of War game as well as Max Payne. I am going to be purchasing Stalker soon as I have heard good things about that. Bioshock was the best game I have played recently, and continuing in those lines may be a good option. I want a game with a strong storyline and good gameplay.

My time with MMOs overall is down. I am still playing Eve Online, but only sparingly. WoW is out for me at the moment, but I might pick it back up in a few months. I am eager to try out Warhammer.

As for games that are coming out, I am very eager to try out the new Golden Axe for the PS3. I have my sights set on MGS4 as well.
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I am playing Max Payne right now and am really enjoying getting back into the game. As for Dawn of War, I have those games as well and am going to get back into those too as soon as I am done with Max Payne and Max Payne 2.
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