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Bell Martin
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Canadian bill to target illegal downloads

Interesting thing to follow

»www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=28427


TK Junk Mail
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said by Bell Martin See Profile :

Interesting thing to follow

»www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=28427
Canada is just joining what is going on in the EU; Japan, & S.Korea. It isn't just the RIAA & MPAA. The music and movie industries in other countries are pushing for this too.
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andyb
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reply to Bell Martin
It's alot worse than that article says.

»www.canada.com/topics/technology···ce5e&p=1

More here also
»www.boingboing.net/2008/06/11/ca···i-1.html


andyb
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said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by Bell Martin See Profile :

Interesting thing to follow

»www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=28427
Canada is just joining what is going on in the EU; Japan, & S.Korea. It isn't just the RIAA & MPAA. The music and movie industries in other countries are pushing for this too.
And who praytell do you think run those movie industries?Its the same damn people.Keep the american shit out of Canada.


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said by andyb See Profile :

Keep the american shit out of Canada.
Technically speaking that IS what the MPAA is trying to do.
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Snickerdo
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reply to Bell Martin
The House will fall long before this bill gets anywhere close to passing the House, let alone the Senate. This is like the fifth or sixth time various sessions of Parliament - the vast majority of them under Liberal leadership - have tried to introduce something along these lines. Parliament either gets prorogued or an election is conveniently called before it ever makes it out of committee.
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mazhurg
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Unfortunately, we have a perfect storm. This may well come to pass.


Snickerdo
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said by mazhurg See Profile :

Unfortunately, we have a perfect storm. This may well come to pass.
Pass the House maybe, but the Senate will give it some long and hard sober second thought.


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reply to Bell Martin
This is downright nasty & scary I sure hope to hell this legislation dies a horrible death along with the greedy corporate scum who thought it up!
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leer

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reply to Bell Martin
So let me get this straight...

Basically,

It;s going to be illegal to download torrent movies and tv shows in Canada now?


Devanchya
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No, it will be illegal to have media you can not prove you paid for.

And paid for.

And paid for.

And rented.


Reactance

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reply to Bell Martin
I believe by this law they are going to cause a lot of public aggravation!

So, what about all the music cds people bought a while ago, and don't have receipts to prove it?

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blueeyesm

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said by Reactance See Profile :

So, what about all the music cds people bought a while ago, and don't have receipts to prove it?
Then as far as they would be concerned, its illegal and you owe a lot more money than you originally paid.

What I would just love to have someone check is Mr. Prentices work and home PCs - y'know, just in case he has any kind of media he can't proves he purchased.

Mind you, he'd find a way to write off the fines as a 'business expense'.

As far as I'm concerned, any content downloaded could be deemed illegal by said owner at any time. Technically, your browsers cache could be viewed as a method of storage for images you do not own and may not have been given permission to download.

That sounds extreme, but it would be valid in a court of law, according to this new bill.

Don't be surprised of we eventually see down the road the whole idea of 'public domain' evapourate.

So - notice how there was no mention of the revocation of the media tax?


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reply to Snickerdo
said by Snickerdo See Profile :

said by mazhurg See Profile :

Unfortunately, we have a perfect storm. This may well come to pass.
Pass the House maybe, but the Senate will give it some long and hard sober second thought.
And now why did we want to abolish the Senate?
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vue666

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I don't think anyone in their right mind wants to abolish the Senate. However I'm 100% for Senate reform and electing Senators. Kind of like what the US has...

Pepsi90919

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reply to Bell Martin
Well, good luck enforcing it.


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And now why did we want to abolish the Senate?
I have never been in favour of abolishing the Senate. My preferred choice is a chamber chosen by the provinces (meaning the province can choose to appoint the Senators or have the voters in the province elect the Senators) with long 10-15 year terms that don't dissolve when the House falls and exist across several House of Commons elections. It would allow for a more democratic selection of Senators, while still preserving the aspect of non-partisan sober second thought.
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shaner
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reply to DKS
said by DKS See Profile :

said by Snickerdo See Profile :

said by mazhurg See Profile :

Unfortunately, we have a perfect storm. This may well come to pass.
Pass the House maybe, but the Senate will give it some long and hard sober second thought.
And now why did we want to abolish the Senate?
Well, wait a second. The article says these proposed "laws" and consequences are part of an international trade agreement which doesn't require parliamentary approval.
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Snickerdo
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said by shaner See Profile :

Well, wait a second. The article says these proposed "laws" and consequences are part of an international trade agreement which doesn't require parliamentary approval.
Anything that inflicts penalties inside Canada requires an act of parliament. This was ruled on by the Supreme Court back in the 80s. They could technically get you for international trade without an act of parliament and merely on regulations or an OC, but that's a different issue all together.
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I'm sure when this comes into effect there will be ALOT less people complaining about throttling.
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