Corydon
Cultivant son jardin
Premium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| reply to jvanbrecht
Re: The blocks are reasonable.
said by jvanbrecht  :On the flip side, the "for the children" argument gets thrown around an awful lot, when it comes to child porn, its a no brainer, but whats next, sex education sites, game sites with sexual content, all those laws aimed at child porn seem to include all sorts of broad contexts, rife for abuse, and I am sort of against that. This is what scares me. To add to Sinclair Lewis' famous quote, fascism in the US will come about "for the children".
Considering how phenomenally rare actual sexual abuse of children by strangers is (on the order of 1 in a million), I often wonder just what agenda is really being pushed here (Cui bono? as L. Cassius used to say).
I suspect that the entire abuse issue is a red herring used to chip away at the First Amendment by the usual suspects pushing their idea of a culture war.
--
My opinions are my own. No-one else would want them! |
|
wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
edit:
June 11th, @11:45AM
| said by Corydon :Considering how phenomenally rare actual sexual abuse of children by strangers is (on the order of 1 in a million), I often wonder just what agenda is really being pushed here (Cui bono? as L. Cassius used to say). Yeah. I heard the most phenomenally absurd claims about this story on my local "News Channel 8" last night -- they said, with a straight face, that child porn was "a billion-dollar business" and "the fastest-growing business on the Internet". I don't think they even attributed these credulous statements.
Then I got an updated Terms of Service from Verizon last night with a clause about child porn. But I'm not sure it really does anything that they weren't already doing... I don't have access to it right now; I'll post it later.
I suspect that the entire abuse issue is a red herring used to chip away at the First Amendment by the usual suspects pushing their idea of a culture war. No kidding... it's been used for perhaps fourteen years now as the pretext for sweeping attacks on the Internet.
--
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 |
|
hacker90
join:2005-09-01
Winnebago, IL
·Mediacom
| reply to Corydon
You obviously never had a mother that worked for DCFS. This type of sexual abuse is quite common up here in northern illinois. But, it never makes the normal news broadcast.
Want to know something REALLY sick? My friend was told by an FBI agent at college, that the youngest sexual abuse victim he dealt with was only several hours old.
Hacker |
|
damicatz
@rr.com
| If they block a single website, then I am done with them. I pay Time Warner $250/month for digital cable on multiple televisions, digital phone, and Roadrunner. If they implement this system, all of those services will be canceled. I'll use all of the money I'll save towards a T-Carrier instead which I know won't be censored.
I don't like hypocrites. In the same paragraph, Time Warner says they do not block websites and then says they will happily block websites on the NCMEC list. Way to contradict yourself.
I do not pay them to filter my content. I do not like the idea of an independent body getting sole discretion over what constitutes child pornography or what sites contain them with no government oversight. I've seen cases where things were blocked for supposedly having child pornography when they infact had none. In this case, there is no appeals process; it is a dictatorship. The NCMEC has sole discretion over what sites should be blocked.
No thanks. |
|
wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
edit:
June 11th, @09:37PM
| reply to wmcbrine
Here's the Terms of Service update from Verizon:
quote:
1. Reporting of Actual or Potential Violations of Child Pornography Laws. We have added language to our Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) making clear that the Service cannot be used in any fashion for the transmission or dissemination of images containing child pornography. In addition, in Section 5, Privacy Policy; Legal Compliance, we have added language making clear that (a) we are required by law to report any facts or circumstances reported to us or which we discover from which it appears there may be a violation of the child pornography laws; and (b) that we reserve the right to report any such information, including the identity of users, account information, images and other facts to law enforcement personnel.
(The "1" is because this was just point one of five in the message, the others relating to billing, etc.) Nothing about blocking here, nor anything else proactive.
--
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 |
|
wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
edit:
June 12th, @10:41PM
| Well, I take it back -- I've just read on 0.verizon.announce that Verizon is planning to drop the alt.* hierarchy, just like Sprint. This is shocking overkill... although it will certainly spare them a lot of resources.
--
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 |
|
