Endian
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|  [TWC] Road Runner Newsgroups Discontinued
Road Runner has announced that effective June 23, 2008 that they are discontinuing the newsgroup service due to low subscriber usage. This info can be found on Road Runner's membership web site. It's located under Important Announcements. What are they going to get rid of next? |
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RonR
join:2003-10-10
Downey, CA | said by Endian :
they are discontinuing the newsgroup service due to low subscriber usage. Which explains why the service is so heavily overloaded as of late. What a crock! |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
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June 10th, @07:36PM
| said by RonR :said by Endian :
they are discontinuing the newsgroup service due to low subscriber usage. Which explains why the service is so heavily overloaded as of late. What a crock! A crock indeed. That's almost as bad as Beaumont's "Our new usage-based billing makes your Internet experience even better." I fully accept that they're discontinuing the service, but please don't patronize me with BS like that. |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI
| reply to Endian
said by Endian :
Road Runner has announced that effective June 23, 2008 that they are discontinuing the newsgroup service due to low subscriber usage. This info can be found on Road Runner's membership web site. It's located under Important Announcements. What are they going to get rid of next?
»www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/10···ackdown/
Are you fucking kidding me? There's a reason why I rail against child pornography laws.
Look at this bullshit. CHILD PORNOGRAPHY LAWS DO NOT PROTECT CHILDREN, AND THEY GIVE ISPS EXCUSES TO FUCK UP OUR SERVICE. |
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Tommyastro
join:2004-01-18
Poughkeepsie, NY | reply to Endian
I thought it was just the groups that cater to child porn? Which I imagine are used by only a few, very sick people. I have not heard they are doing away with all newsgroups. |
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Baseline
join:2001-02-26
Buffalo, NY
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June 10th, @07:54PM
| reply to Endian
What a load of crap...
That is the worst excuse on the planet to get rid of ALL newsgroup access.
Granted, those who are looking at kiddie porn are sick f*cks, but they should just be arrested anyway... Don't ruin the rest of cool newsgroups for everyone.
FIOS still has their freebie newsgroups. So lame that people 5 minutes away in my area can get FIOS and I can't. |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI
| reply to Tommyastro
said by Tommyastro :I thought it was just the groups that cater to child porn? Which I imagine are used by only a few, very sick people. I have not heard they are doing away with all newsgroups. No. This is an obvious red herring that Time Warner Cable is using to get rid of all of their Usenet access. That's right: No more 110-day retention + unlimited bandwidth binary Usenet from their outsourced services to Newshosting included for free with our Internet subscriptions after June 23.
I suggest you guys grab all you can off of Usenet and start looking into third party Usenet providers. For an equivalent of what you've been getting for free from Time Warner, you'll have to pay around $20 a month from a third party provider.
Hey, Time Warner! I look forward to my $20 cheaper a month Internet bill, you assholes. |
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rcdailey
Dragoonfly
Premium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
| reply to Baseline
My use of newsgroups has been very limited, so I probably won't feel the impact that much. However, I can see that TWC RoadRunner are just cutting down on their offerings while maintaining or increasing their monthly rates over time. After all, they were already outsourcing to Newshosting, I believe. |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI
| reply to Endian
Seriously, Time Warner's excellent Usenet access and no bandwidth caps are what made them one of the top ISPs in the nation.
Now that they're getting rid of it, and attempting to implement ridiculously low bandwidth caps in the future, I can't see how they possibly expect to compete with Verizon FIOS and AT&T's U-verse.
It's not like they're bleeding for money - Time Warner Cable is very profitable. These are boneheaded business moves indeed. I don't know what idiot they hired in management that is pushing through all these changes that will drive customers away, but if I was a stockholder I would be furious. |
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Mazakman
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
·FrontierNet Intern..
·AT&T CallVantage
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June 10th, @08:56PM
| I think that over 75 to 80% of internet subscribers these days have no clue what a newsgroup is anyway. Seriously. By the way, this is old news. This news was posted on the alt.online-services.roadrunner by me on the 5th....right after I read about this on the main page of this site. |
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rcdailey
Dragoonfly
Premium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
| reply to Xizer
How many customers will be driven away? TWC must have an idea of how many usenet subscribers they currently have. Is usenet the big draw for FiOS, where that is available? The number of customers TWC will lose may not cost them as much as they will save by simply not having to support usenet either via their own servers or by outsourcing. At some level, the bean counters win and the customers lose. I wonder what Calvin Coolidge would think? |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI
| said by rcdailey :How many customers will be driven away? TWC must have an idea of how many usenet subscribers they currently have. Is usenet the big draw for FiOS, where that is available? The number of customers TWC will lose may not cost them as much as they will save by simply not having to support usenet either via their own servers or by outsourcing. At some level, the bean counters win and the customers lose. I wonder what Calvin Coolidge would think? Time Warner has over 7 million Usenet subscribers. |
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rcdailey
Dragoonfly
Premium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
| said by Xizer :said by rcdailey :How many customers will be driven away? TWC must have an idea of how many usenet subscribers they currently have. Is usenet the big draw for FiOS, where that is available? The number of customers TWC will lose may not cost them as much as they will save by simply not having to support usenet either via their own servers or by outsourcing. At some level, the bean counters win and the customers lose. I wonder what Calvin Coolidge would think? Time Warner has over 7 million Usenet subscribers. Then I guess we will see how many switch to some other ISP. I'm one of the 7 million, but I'm not going to bother switching from TWC to AT&T DSL (which is all I could get here, no FiOS, not even U-verse). |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | AT&T/SBC/Pacbell has never really had binary usenet service to speak of anyway. DSLExtreme offers good, albeit slow, binary newsgroup service.
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI
| reply to rcdailey
said by rcdailey :said by Xizer :said by rcdailey :How many customers will be driven away? TWC must have an idea of how many usenet subscribers they currently have. Is usenet the big draw for FiOS, where that is available? The number of customers TWC will lose may not cost them as much as they will save by simply not having to support usenet either via their own servers or by outsourcing. At some level, the bean counters win and the customers lose. I wonder what Calvin Coolidge would think? Time Warner has over 7 million Usenet subscribers. Then I guess we will see how many switch to some other ISP. I'm one of the 7 million, but I'm not going to bother switching from TWC to AT&T DSL (which is all I could get here, no FiOS, not even U-verse). Perhaps you will change your tune when Time Warner starts the next batch of anti-consumer network regression techniques in the coming months and implements their pathetic 40 GB bandwidth caps on that 7 million after taking away their Usenet access.
I know I'm in the beginning stages of examining the competition; TWC getting rid of their newsgroups is the first step in their coming downfall. |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
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| reply to Xizer
said by Xizer :[Time Warner has over 7 million Usenet subscribers. What?
I have read some inaccurate stuff on here before but that has to be one of the most ludicrous statements I have read.
Try less than 28,000 hits a day.
Hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Baseline
join:2001-02-26
Buffalo, NY
| reply to rcdailey
Unfortunately I'm compelled to agree that until FIOS is in my area, I won't be switching. The DSL option isn't worth it for the speeds.
I think this is a gigantic mistake on TW's part though, since those that are using the newsgroup service will now just rely more heavily on torrents. Now instead of people using 400KB/s on newsgroups, people will be using their full cap up AND down on torrents to keep ratios.
Very stupid move. They did this to target the bandwidth users, and it's just going to cause them to use more bandwidth. |
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RR User
@rr.com
| reply to Endian
Everyone knows that this is just TW's way of cutting off all its arms and legs, and trimming the fat to decrease overhead and increase profits.
I thought ISP's didn't want to be dumb pipe providers... but if they keep cutting services and start metering bandwidth... what do you call that?
Ridiculously low caps and gouging overage fees for everyone are soon to follow, and guess what? TW says they will make our internet experience even better!
It's like some kind of militant crackdown that everyone will feel at some point. If all the ISP's start doing this, I can eventually see all kinds of E-commerce going down the toilet... Are they trying to kill the internet? |
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netgear
Net Gear
Premium
join:1999-12-20
Arlington, TX | reply to Endian
Makes sense. That's ancient. I was playing with NNTP in the late 80s. It's about time...
R.I.P. |
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The Vigilante
@rr.com
| reply to hobgoblin
These are, of course, the people who tell you that moving a channel to a tier where subscribers now require to rent a digital box is "A channel service level correction"
»www.timewarnercable.com/socal/pr···rts.html |
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