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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to pnh102
Re: FCC Did The Right Thing

said by pnh102 See Profile :

XYZ "for families?" What kind of BS is this? Where is it listed in the Constitution that you have a right government-provided Internet? Does making it "for families" make it better?
Where is it in the constitution people have a right to running water, electricty or phone service? It's not but no one would argue that making sure small rual areas had access to water electricy and at have the ability to order phone service was the right thing to do. Do you think it was profitable at the time to build out electrical systems to town of juts acouple hundred people? Hell no. Of coruse those electric companies have made all that investment back and then some. In the end as a nation we are better off that 20% of our population doesn't live in areas that have no electricy or running water or phone service.

All that being said, I don't mind this idea. It doesn't mean it has to be FREE. My best friend lives a few miles out of town and his only option for anything other than dial-up is crappy expensive satelite. Giving him some other option since the telcos and cable companies don't seem to want his money, would be nice.

See once this gets going and the cable companies and telcoss see just how many MILLIONS of people actually want something other than dial-up they'll start building out. Also satelite companies will have no choice but to lower their prices and provide better service if they want to keep what few customers they have. win win. As I said I doesn't have to be a free servcie.


Richard B
Fur It Up

join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
·Comcast

You can live without internet; you can drill your own well or buy a generator. You do not have a right to force others to provide your needs. Rights by nature are immaterial you have a right to pursuit your own happiness but not right to force others to provide for your happiness the same with internet. If the does not like dial up that person can exercise the right of internal migration and move or one enterprising fellow in a small town did bought in DS3 line and SELL access to his neighbors. The beset way to brig broadband is Capitalism.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

reply to BF69
said by BF69 See Profile :

Where is it in the constitution people have a right to running water, electricty or phone service?
No where, and we don't have these rights. We are expected to pay for these things. I know my water, phone and electricity will be shut off if I decided not to pay for them.
said by BF69 See Profile :

It's not but no one would argue that making sure small rual areas had access to water electricy and at have the ability to order phone service was the right thing to do.
No arguments there. But I believe that people who want these things should provide for them themselves.
said by BF69 See Profile :

Do you think it was profitable at the time to build out electrical systems to town of juts acouple hundred people? Hell no.
It is only not profitable if the government paid for the cost. If the cost is high, and the price charged is higher, then it can be profitable.
said by BF69 See Profile :

My best friend lives a few miles out of town and his only option for anything other than dial-up is crappy expensive satelite. Giving him some other option since the telcos and cable companies don't seem to want his money, would be nice.
But you can make that argument about people who live in the city, should they happen to want things like wide-open spaces, good schools, cleaner air, etc. Luxuries have been and always will be a function of your location.
said by BF69 See Profile :

See once this gets going and the cable companies and telcoss see just how many MILLIONS of people actually want something other than dial-up they'll start building out.
I don't think so. Internet providers have already picked the most profitable areas and have built accordingly. Unless the business costs drops to the point where it becomes profitable to service people who would otherwise be unprofitable, we won't see any expansions.
said by BF69 See Profile :

Also satelite companies will have no choice but to lower their prices and provide better service if they want to keep what few customers they have.
They would have to improve service, which is good, but I doubt costs will come down. Cost is just a function of what the market will bear, and if people are willing to pay $100 a month for a service, no company will charge $90 for the same service. Consider FIOS and cable internet as examples here.
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NetAdmin

join:2008-05-22

reply to Richard B
said by Richard B See Profile :

The beset way to brig broadband is Capitalism.
Right, because capitalism worked so well in providing rural locations with things like electricity and basic phone service the first time. The fact is that capitalism doesn't always workout in everyone's favor and anyone who claims it does, lives in a fantasy world.

Blindly advocating market solutions to EVERY problem is just as bad as running to the nanny government every time for a fix.
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