AMDUSER
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join:2003-05-28
Earth
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| reply to DrModem
Re: What did you expect?
It is time for broadband availability delivered over telephone lines to be regulated. Telephone service is.. you can get it, even in the boonies. It should also specify the minimum download and upload speed after TCP/IP,DHCP, PPPoE overhead. 15Meg/2 Meg sounds like a good starting point. |
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DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA | Actually, for a starting point somewhere around 3m\1m would be good IMO. |
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HEDP
join:2008-04-27
Miami, FL
| reply to AMDUSER
I say no regulation and allow a young entrepreneur to take advantage of such a market with different forms of technology available to make it possible. As that area grows the cost for dropping a line of fibre or copper down to those customers becomes justifiable.
No one not even you will put 40g's (cost much higher) and suck up the cost when you are only getting a few dollars in return. If you want the U.S to win in broadband speeds across the world you will deregulate the market and allow players to free roam with only consumer protection policies.
If you don't like the whole idea then I suggest you Foff because if I where to own a corporation I would of told you I am only deploying in places where I see a return in my investments because it costs thousands and millions of dollars to operate a national network that spans from sea to shining sea.
I won't put profitable areas at risk because I need to drop down 200K to invest in a infrastructure that serves only 200 person town in the middle of Montana and half of them are not even interested in the service and expect to have crew members drop a 10km line and somehow provide power to the equipment in the middle where there is no power and pretty much the area the lines travel are swamp land so I need to setup a small elevated rise and bring all tons of other expenses into the mix.
Of course we are also in charge of employees so we need to make sure they are working safely at all times with a safety inspector on site and machinery to make the foundation of where we need to buy special batteries and solar panels to power the equipment to up and running 24/7/365 days a year because batteries last forever right?
Of course if we drop one of these boxes in front of your home, then you cry and complain about how ugly it looks, well jack ass we had to put it somewhere.
I swear...I think I can understand why people who work in the field don't like speaking to customers period. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | Good points, and you wouldn't be wanting the USF fees either, right?
So what's the answer? |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to AMDUSER
15/2 over telephone lines? Seriously? |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to HEDP
said by HEDP  :I say no regulation and allow a young entrepreneur to take advantage of such a market with different forms of technology available to make it possible. As that area grows the cost for dropping a line of fibre or copper down to those customers becomes justifiable. No one not even you will put 40g's (cost much higher) and suck up the cost when you are only getting a few dollars in return. Make it not be 40K. Do the vertical integration of Ma Bell. Use open source hardware and free standards that don't require 20K a year membership fees to get access to plus per unit royalties. Oh, BTW WiMAX fanboys, is your standard really open, or it is multi $1000 membership fees and per unit royalties and patent encumbered?
said by »standards.ieee.org/getieee802/do···2005.pdf :
Note: Attention is called to the possibility that implementation of this standard may require use of subject matter
covered by patent rights. By publication of this standard, no position is taken with respect to the existence or
validity of any patent rights in connection therewith. The IEEE shall not be responsible for identifying patents
for which a license may be required by an IEEE standard or for conducting inquiries into the legal validity or
scope of those patents that are brought to its attention.
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CaptainRR
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join:2006-04-21
Blue Rock, OH
| reply to HEDP
With WiMax and LTE in the picture what would be so hard to just run fiber to the cell sites? There would be all kinds of bandwidth than but the only problem is will the carriers cap it a 5 gig. a month. You wouldn't have to worry about running fiber out in the boonies if those technologies become available in the urban areas. |
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HEDP
join:2008-04-27
Miami, FL
| reply to patcat88
If you know how to do it so well why don't you just shut up and do something about it then?
Start up a business and let us know how it goes, as you do your research you would clearly see how expensive things become in just paper work alone. I will actually encourage you to pursue that venture of yours. After all since this is a matter that disturbs you so much I am sure you are willing to do something that will actually work.
Of course if you do not plan on doing anything, then you don't really have a solution and are just part of the problem. I am sure it will feel nice though that "COMPANIES" are coming to "YOU" because "YOU" provide a service that operates their ATMs and WiFi systems at malls because they are all relying on a investment that you decided to make happen and now things that the common city dweller enjoys is in some small town in Montana.
Companies will be coming to you or even the city will come to you requesting the cost of city wide WiFi access and if they give you a certain amount of cash can you do it. It's not Verizon or some big telco this time, it's patcat88's little mom and pop shop. So many things that you saw wrong with city WiFi, well guess what now you can change that.
It's easy to bitch and complain, doing something about it is entirely different. This is why I pretty much am done complaining about services I buy because I in the end decided to pay for them, nobody forced me into anything and broadband or internet access for that matter is not a necessity as long as I have a means of communication I am pretty squared away. |
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HEDP
join:2008-04-27
Miami, FL
| reply to jjeffeory
That's up to the entrepreneur who starts the business to decide. You can help him or her out by removing a ton of the legal hurdles that the consumers have placed that basically stopped mom and pop shops from starting due to high costs.
I wouldn't trust the FCC with cleaning their own ass, you can't expect people who do not know a thing about broadband or the internet in general to make decisions that are based on those subjects.
Different terrain calls for different equipment, it could be a mix of wireless or wired then what type of network topology, and so forth but again that's up to the entrepreneur or better said network engineer to decide.
You can't just slap some wireless tower in a corn field with WiMAX and expect it to work properly. There is a reason why tower placement is important, for more info just ask someone who works in the field, because I am sure they will know a lot more than I ever would including regulations, safety procedures, and much more. |
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