Skeedatl
Ah, push it - push it real good
Premium
join:2007-12-26
The Cloud | Duh
What do to the telcos think will happen when they charge $7.50 for Caller ID, $1.50 how dare you not want to be in the phone book fee and the awesome you aren't using enough long distance fee. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
·DSL EXTREME
| Telco:
Still attempting to live off old school legacy bundles
Eg. DSL bundled with POTS (POTS is obsolete + expensive and tons of regulatory fees and unfees)
Uverse: Internet only available with TV service, VoIP not available in many markets, meaning its overpriced in comparison to Cable.
FiOS: High acceptance rate (duh), not highly available.
Cable: High(er) rates, moderate costs unless bundled. Many bundle options (i.e. VoIP + HSI only!)
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| reply to Skeedatl
You forgot 3.95 for DTMF. Having worked on telco switches I know that pulse dialing is about 10x more expensive and requires much more than a single card that can decode DTMF.
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mental_guy
join:2008-01-16
Toronto, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to Skeedatl
I think that PPPoE in DSL is useless. I guess that it was planned as a temporary solution to move dial-up customers, but kept way too long now. Seriously, what's the point of having it these days? I have both cable and DSL and I find pppoe to be a weakness of DSL.
My cable is down like this only if there is maintenance on the line. |
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espaeth
Misanthrope
Premium
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
 ·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·voip.ms
·Comcast
·Embarq
| said by mental_guy  :I think that PPPoE in DSL is useless. I guess that it was planned as a temporary solution to move dial-up customers, but kept way too long now. Seriously, what's the point of having it these days? None of the DSL providers I've used have ever used PPPoE.
Qwest w/ 3rd party ISP had PPPoA configured right on the Cisco 675, so no PC-based client was required.
Embarq creates a L2 bridge via an RFC1483 tunnel and serves up IP address info via DHCP to clients.
This is definitely one of those "your mileage may vary" items. |
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hottboiinnc
Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| reply to en102
Cable is cheaper depending on what you order, who your provider is and how long the promotion is for. Which with some providers they'll let you renew that promotion after it expires. Also I don't see Cable any higher than Telco's especially VZ when it comes to Cable. We've already seen them hike their rates several times. |
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hottboiinnc
Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
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May 18th, @07:09AM
| reply to espaeth
ATT requires PPPoE they have it built into the router/modem. But thats only after you install their AT$T Yahoo! Software. |
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Madness
Wish I Knew
join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Skeedatl
That "not using enough long distance fee" really p'd me off. Verizon waived the, "honor of having their long distance service on my line" fee (w/ VZEncore), but then had the nerve to start charging me $2 (later upped to $4) every month if I made less than those amounts in long distance calls.
So I ported my number to a prepay cellphone, switching my DSL to dryloop & weaseled a contract of them to keep the same $29.95 rate I was paying before w/ the Encore bundle.
As for the DSL itself, I'm satisfied w/ it. Been trouble-free for as long as I can remember. A router maintains the PPPoE so I don't even deal w/ the "logon" anymore. And then I'm not on P2P/Torrents downloading 300GB/month of crappy movies or other garbage so the 3Mb is more than adequate. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
·Skype
·Cox VOIP
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to Skeedatl
said by Skeedatl :What do to the telcos think will happen when they charge $7.50 for Caller ID, $1.50 how dare you not want to be in the phone book fee and the awesome you aren't using enough long distance fee. Caller ID with bell now is $9 by the way. I bet about 50% of customers here in Pensacola have Cox Digital Phone instead of BellSouth. It is literally $20 cheaper than everything with Bell.
Cox only has the 911 charge (which probably goes to the Telco not Cox) and the FCC Connection Charge. Before I left Bellsouth, they had a $.50 hurricane cost recovery fee. A basic line was like $20-25.00 with Bell. Add another $25 and get everything with Cox including tracking all your calls online and even download voicemails. Cox is also digital so sound quality beats the heck out of Bell's analog (especially if the wiring is old as hell like mine was). I paid $37.95 for 3/500 with Bell (6/768 not available) but only $42.95 for 8/500 with Cox (I have the 12/1 now for $56.95). I got 10/500 with 8/500 and get 15-32/1 with the 12/1. I agree PPOEE sucks.
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Not a Floridian but I was in FL in Vero Beach in 2004.
I was at my parent's house helping clean-up after Hurricane Francis.
I can tell you the very last utility that was restored after BOTH Francis AND Jeanne (I didn't get out in time) was cable by a long shot.
Think about it. Does cable maintain an adequate full-time infrastructure work force? I am pretty sure most of the Subs that Comcast relied upon were making at least triple what CC was paying them doing clean-up after the storms.
Granted I am sitting here up North with my FIOS triple play which has not been down once in over a year since the install (even during power outages. I have a UPS connected to the ONT so I have yet to need VZ's battery.). But I have been there and done that Supergirl and wonder if you are gonna come crying about how long it took Cox to restore service after the next big one hits you.
Think about it. I hope you have a lot of minutes on your cell phone contract. You will need them. |
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blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL | reply to hottboiinnc
I have never installed AT$T's Yahoo software. I have installed my DSL, my parents & a few of my friends. |
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