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new_fios_user

@verizon.net

how much less should wireless bandwidth vs. wired .,

My new FIOS 20/5 connection is testing

basically just that on wired.

On a 54mbps 90% signal wireless, its testing between 14/4 and 17/4.6

Is this normal?

With a 50% signal at around 18 or 24mbps, it goes down to something like 7/4

Upload speeds are not a concern for me, but the vast range in download speeds due to wireless connection is a little annoying.

Also, I keep hearing about the NAT table issue for this particular acitontec verizon router - can someone tell me the actual size in KB of this table? I only have 3, MAYBE 4 people on the network at any given time, so is it really an issue?

I am trying to figure out what to do before Thursday when Verizon is coming to add FIOS TV to my house.

Currently they set up the actiontec via coax to the ONT. I am thinking of setting up my own cat5e from the ONT to MY own router (to bypass the actiontec). Routers I were considering for this were the D-link DGL-4500 and another d-link which rated both over 200mbps on aggregate throughput tests, or a simple WRT54GS linksys router with Tomato firmware. If I use the Linksys one, I won't have to spend extra on wireless-N adapters for 3 computers. I know Tomato firmware is rather simple compared to DD-WRT, so I'm curious if other people have used this set-up.

Then I am reading that with FIOS TV, i'll still need the aciontec. Can someone explain how all the STBs connect to the actiontec (do they all go to the coax and through a splitter). My questions for this are,

1)If I have the ONT connected to MY OWN router via cat5e ethernet, and I also want FIOS TV, do the actiontec and MY router need to be connected? This is a concern for me because currently the actiontec is in a closet - there are signal issues with it right now, but if it were just to be used for FIOS TV, then wireless is not an issue and it could stay in the closet. My 2nd router will be in a another room completely where the signal strength will be strong everywhere.

Will that work?

Thanks in advance)


More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
·Bay Area Internet ..

said by new_fios_user :

Also, I keep hearing about the NAT table issue for this particular Actiontec verizon router - can someone tell me the actual size in KB of this table? I only have 3, MAYBE 4 people on the network at any given time, so is it really an issue?

I am trying to figure out what to do before Thursday when Verizon is coming to add FIOS TV to my house.

Currently they set up the Actiontec via coax to the ONT. I am thinking of setting up my own cat5e from the ONT to MY own router (to bypass the Actiontec). Routers I were considering for this were the D-link DGL-4500 and another d-link which rated both over 200mbps on aggregate throughput tests, or a simple WRT54GS linksys router with Tomato firmware. If I use the Linksys one, I won't have to spend extra on wireless-N adapters for 3 computers. I know Tomato firmware is rather simple compared to DD-WRT, so I'm curious if other people have used this set-up.

Then I am reading that with FIOS TV, I'll still need the Actiontec. Can someone explain how all the STBs connect to the Actiontec (do they all go to the coax and through a splitter). My questions for this are,

1)If I have the ONT connected to MY OWN router via cat5e ethernet, and I also want FIOS TV, do the Actiontec and MY router need to be connected? This is a concern for me because currently the Actiontec is in a closet - there are signal issues with it right now, but if it were just to be used for FIOS TV, then wireless is not an issue and it could stay in the closet. My 2nd router will be in a another room completely where the signal strength will be strong everywhere.
The NAT table is primarily an issue with bit torrent uploads filling the NAT table. The size in KB is irrelevant. What is important is the number of simultaneous connections that can be supported.
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/ reports the max. number of simultaneous connections for the Actiontec to be 96.

The following post contains 3 diagrams showing:
a) Standard coax install with TV
b) cat5 internet only install
c) cat5 internet with TV
»Re: [northeast] New Install coming up - Router access

1) Yes, your router and the Actiontec need to be connected to each other. See the above diagrams.

You really should trying searching on this forum. Your questions have been asked and answered many times.


new_fios_user

@verizon.net

I have searched the forums, but I see conflicting opinions sometimes.

I just want to get this clear - can you or can you not have BOTH ethernet AND coax coming out of the ONT? Ethernet for internet going to a router of my choice. Coax going to a splitter going to the actiontec going to the STBs, and a patch cable from my router's LAN port to actiontec's WAN port.

Right now I am experiencing a weird issue where while playing xbox live, my computer's internet will freeze up, where I can't go to any websites (although the xbox live continues to work fine). For some reason after I open a browser window and go to 192.168.1.1, and the verizon screen pops up, the internet will begin to work again. Not sure if this is just coincidence or what. I am assuming this is the NAT table issue with the actiontec? I can't possibly see how they can be getting away with a problem this bad..

So is my own router the only solution?


More Fiber
Premium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
·Bay Area Internet ..

said by new_fios_user :

I just want to get this clear - can you or can you not have BOTH ethernet AND coax coming out of the ONT? Ethernet for internet going to a router of my choice. Coax going to a splitter going to the Actiontec going to the STBs, and a patch cable from my router's LAN port to Actiontec's WAN port.
Normal video is split off the fiber at the ONT onto the coax and fed to the STBs.

Ethernet data is split off the fiber and can be delivered over either the coax or the cat5 connection, but not both.

The coax LAN for the STBs is bridged to the ethernet LAN side of the Actiontec. The STBs use IP over coax LAN (MOCA) for guide data and VOD. This data has to pass from the MOCA LAN to the WAN (whether coax or cat5) via a router.

The coax WAN and coax LAN normally coexist on the same coax (different frequencies). This is why in a normal coax install, VZ will install a splitter. The coax from the ONT feeds the splitter. The Actiontec is also connected to the splitter, as are the STBs.

If you have cat5 WAN connection from the ONT and have TV, then you need a cat5 to MOCA bridge for the STBs. You can place the Actiontec behind your router and have the Actiontec function handle only the VOD and guide data.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS

Ethernet data is split off the fiber and can be delivered over either the coax or the cat5 connection, but not both.

its too bad there was/is no IPTV box out there that verizon could have used and actually done it that way from the start...two separate IP feeds one for tv and one for ethernet each using a dif connection coax for iptv and ether for net and dont mix the two...course i wonder how long it would have been till someone figured out how to use the 100mbps tv link for surfing
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