SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| The Battle Has Just Begun
the line in the sand has been drawn. Now more than ever, anyone with a BB connection needs to get involved in this fight because we all know that our coin-operated "leaders" in Congre$$ prefer money over having to actually represent the constituencies that elected them.
GET INVOLVED TODAY! or the tools will take over permanently. |
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DMNTD
join:2002-10-19
usa
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| said by SilverSurfer  :the line in the sand has been drawn. Now more than ever, anyone with a BB connection needs to get involved in this fight because we all know that our coin-operated "leaders" in Congre$$ prefer money over having to actually represent the constituencies that elected them. GET INVOLVED TODAY! or the tools will take over permanently. I agree we need to fight back but involving the government won't change anything..in fact, whats so hard to understand that they BELIEVE in each other? No this is going to get worse before it gets better and the only choice your going to have is either bow down or cut your broadband off...I will cut it off. I will use my free will. |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| reply to SilverSurfer
said by SilverSurfer :the line in the sand has been drawn. Now more than ever, anyone with a BB connection needs to get involved in this fight .... and support the requirement for ISP's to throw the music & movie thieves off of their networks. And while we are at it, throw off those people whose systems have been botted and turned in to spam machines.
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| reply to DMNTD
said by DMNTD :[...]involving the government won't change anything.. I bet you think voting doesn't change anything either.  |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
moderated:
May 12th, @05:44PM
| reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail :and support the requirement for ISP's to throw the music & movie thieves off of their networks. Sure, let's just be OK with giving ISPs carte blanche to do what they want. Because anyone who downloads is a thief by default. Because you personally don't use beyond X gigs per month. |
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DMNTD
join:2002-10-19
usa | reply to SilverSurfer
You are correct. But its nothing I "think" its what I see. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to TK Junk Mail
There's a few issues at stake... not just the 'movie and music' theives, but..
- The spammers
- Free speech
- Unfiltered / unthrottled access to the Internet (yeah, I like to be able to run Skype, or even bittorrent)
ISP's want to be the network police, because then they would have the ability to throttle, snoop limit access and become the gatekeepers of the Internet while being paid for by the customer, and the Ad-driven forced content. To ISP's, this is merely another win-win for them.
- A new revenue stream
- Network control
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail :and support the requirement for ISP's to throw the music & movie thieves off of their networks.
I hope you can understand, or that at least readers will understand, that this kind of comment is like referring to defendants in criminal cases as "criminals" when they haven't been convicted of anything.
Even if someone has been found liable by a court for copyright infringement, preventing them from having internet access would be excessively harsh. It would be evil and anti-democratic to prevent a person from having access to news, books or publishers because he committed libel or obscenity; the judgment for the plaintiff is enough.
But we're not even talking about court judgments - just unaccountable accusations which may be mistaken, or trumped up for ulterior motives. |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA | reply to SilverSurfer
Not when every candidate ends up running the country even further into the ground for personal gain.
See: the last eight years. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to SilverSurfer
id rather see spammers shut down before pirates. infact i think ALL of our current anti-p2p piracy resources should be focused on spammers. spam causes more loss of money then people downloading torrents on the pirate bay ever will.
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apollo80
join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA
| reply to lordofwhee
said by lordofwhee :Not when every candidate ends up running the country even further into the ground for personal gain. See: the last eight years. The past eight years? Um...how about for the past several DECADES. |
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digitalfreak
Frodo failed. Bush has the ring
join:2005-12-09
49533
| reply to SilverSurfer
said by SilverSurfer :said by TK Junk Mail :and support the requirement for ISP's to throw the music & movie thieves off of their networks. Sure, let's just be OK with giving ISPs carte blanche to do what they want. Because anyone who downloads is a thief by default. Because you personally don't use beyond X gigs per month. You should know by now that TK considers anyone who uses their connection for more than checking the weather a thief. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| said by digitalfreak :said by SilverSurfer :said by TK Junk Mail :and support the requirement for ISP's to throw the music & movie thieves off of their networks. Sure, let's just be OK with giving ISPs carte blanche to do what they want. Because anyone who downloads is a thief by default. Because you personally don't use beyond X gigs per month. You should know by now that TK considers anyone who uses their connection for more than checking the weather a thief. You know something? You're right. My bad. |
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root9
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to digitalfreak
Hmm ... Isn't taking stories and other materials from other places and posting them here and on his website a form of theft? Copyright infringement by TK maybe?
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Money Money
@verizon.net
| reply to Kearnstd
Isn't the statistic something like 93% of internet traffic is spam? And the problem is p2p? The problem is indeed that the owners of the pipes want to take control of distribution and the legacy media are all in favor of anything that keeps it difficult for mere mortals (aka artists and creators) to do their own distribution. What a sad state of affairs.
Watch next for strict controls on encryption technology, because only pirates / drug dealers / terrorists / pedophiles / boogeyman of the month would use encryption, right? |
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dodgetech2
join:2002-01-01
Gouldsboro, PA
 ·Vonage
| reply to SilverSurfer
said by SilverSurfer :said by DMNTD :[...]involving the government won't change anything.. I bet you think voting doesn't change anything either. Well, it does change the empty suit that occupies the seat......Thats about it as far as I'm concerned.
Oh wait, I forgot, it also changes the pocket our stolen tax dollars get put in. |
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